[MemberPubPol] [chapter-delegates] FYI - in the coming discussion of the WGIG questionnaire

[Ian Peter]

Veni,

Having had different opinions to yours on policy issues quite often of late,
I must say that on this occasion I am in total agreement!

All the best,



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-----Original Message-----
From: memberpubpol-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:memberpubpol-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Veni Markovski
Sent: 18 June 2005 06:57
To: avri doria; memberpubpol at elists.isoc.org;
chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Subject: Re: [MemberPubPol] [chapter-delegates] FYI - in the coming
discussion of the WGIG questionnaire

At 09:02 09-06-05  -0700, Fred Baker wrote:

>Personally, I can show you as many problems with the proposed new 
>structures as exist with the old ones, and in addition I can show you a 
>set of people whom the enum registry is not serving in any way. That tells 
>me that the proposed structures have at least as many problems, and bring 
>fundamentally new ones. Whatever the ills of the old structure may be, the 
>proposed new structure doesn't sound like much of a solution.
>
>The "arrogance" I mentioned is in making the assertion that "government is 
>the solution" uncritically.

Fred,
government should be part of the solution. No government alone can be a 
solution to such a complex issue, which includes so many players. However, 
we must not exclude governments based on the asumption that there's no need 
to fix something, which ain't broken. Some kind of new structure will be 
created - whether it's going to be an UN agency, task force, forum, union, 
conference, etc. is not important. What is important is that there are 
serious (new) players on the ground, which need to be taken into 
consideration - but into a real one, not the ones that you are used to 
within ISOC:)

As for Vittorio's proposals (and they are not only his), only time will 
tell if they have the right to live. What I wouldn't exclude is that the 
Internet can develop regardless of the governments. While it's true it has 
rapidly increased its penetration in some countries without the governments 
being involved, in others the whole infrastructure was developed thanks to 
governments and politicans. Even in the USA, if it wasn't for the Dept. of 
defence, then the DoC, and to Al Gore, and to Bill Clinton, things would 
have never been so dramatically changed for the good of all people.

When we discuss such delicate matters, we must not forget, that the 
Internet didn't start with ISOC, and it will continue to exist long time 
after ISOC, because if ISOC doesn't change it might as well disappear with 
time.

Best,
Veni 


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