[chapter-delegates] Re: MemeberShip System

[David McAuley]

Dear Chapter Delegates:

Before investing much time in looking at membership systems, I should
reiterate my message of below. ISOC did a comprehensive survey of membership
system needs, including among chapter delegates, and then in early 2004
purchased a membership system from GO Members.

The new system is sophisticated and involves the complexities you would
expect with such a system. Nevertheless a great deal of progress has been
made and chapter testing is about to begin (just a few more conversion
wrinkles to iron out). This is a good system, it is coming, it is near and
we cannot now look at new or different systems.

Thanks and best regards,

David McAuley
Membership Director
Internet Society
703-326-9880, ext 104
703-963-5887 (mobile)
mcauley at isoc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Levin [mailto:alan at futureperfect.co.za] 
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:20 AM
To: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Subject: [chapter-delegates] Re: MemeberShip System

Hi Franck and others

On 16 Feb 2005, at 00:11, Franck Martin wrote:
> Which one you want?

Thanks for taking the time to find this out.

> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zebraz/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/sitehelm/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/infocentral/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/clubdata/

I went through them and I'm not sure which is most suitable. They don't  
have any list management integration but zebraz may be easily extended.

I like Gene's idea of obtaining some agreement on a spec. I'm certainly  
happy to take comments and expand on what we started but I agree with  
others comments that ISOC HQ should be doing this.  [note: From my  
conversations with other chapters we all have the same membership  
management needs, and tracking of payments is not one of them  
(obviously with some exceptions].

> Can we as Chapter Delegates make an evaluation and decision and inform  
> ISOC HQ for implementation?

Yes please, although I have some concerns about these emails:

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Andreu Vea' <andreu at veabaro.info>
> Date: 17 February 2005 12:54:06 GMT+02:00
> To: 'David McAuley' <mcauley at isoc.org>
> Cc: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Subject: RE: [chapter-delegates] Membership System
> Reply-To: andreu at veabaro.info
>
> Thanks David,
>  
> Your words sound great to me.
>  One year of silence, is quite equivalent to: "we have forgotten the  
> project..."
> Effectively as former President of ISOC- 
> CAT (in Catalunya - Barcelona) I offered our help to Nelson (Feb.-16 
> -2004 just a year ago today) but never heard anymore about that. We  
> supposed you already covered your needs with other Chapters.
>  
> I would suggest to open the beta-testing of the Membership Management  
> as soon as possible to the chapters. I have been involved in many big  
> ERP systems deployment, and I think a year of "customization" of a  
> "off-the-shelf" product is a little bit too long... 
>  
>             andreu
>
> De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
>  Enviado el: miércoles, 16 de febrero de 2005 9:13
> Para: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Asunto: [chapter-delegates] Membership System
>
> Andreu is correct. In the first quarter of 2004 ISOC entered into an  
> agreement with Go Members (http://www.gomembers.com/) to use their Q  
> System Membership management system and financial system. It was a  
> major step.  This was announced to the chapter delegates list in  
> February 2004 along with a request for chapter volunteers for testing.
>
> Subsequently in 2004 we have been working with GoMembers on the  
> implementation of the system – it is quite detailed as you can imagine  
> for an organization with members, chapters and organizations around  
> the world. We have encountered a few unforeseen difficulties with the  
> financial system implementation and that has had an impact on the  
> overall schedule. But we are working through that and will separately  
> release the membership system despite the fact that it will not, when  
> released, integrate to the new financial system.
>
> A great deal has been done and a number of chapters have responded to  
> Nelson’s call for volunteer testers. We cannot take all volunteers but  
> have chosen a number who represent diverse chapter characteristics,  
> locations and activities. We will release the membership system to the  
> first of these testers within 2 weeks.

David, just a reminder that it's now 2 weeks, any news?

> (We have done a great deal of internal testing already.)  Depending on  
> what we find in this round of testing, we expect to release the  
> membership system to general use in April.

I assume this is April 2005 you're referring to.

Tjeers,

aLan

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Alan Levin
Tel: +27 21 409-7997


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