[Chapter-delegates] [MemberPubPol] US/Bush global Internetsurveillance & ISOC's emerging 2006 policy agenda

[Gene Gaines]

David,

Agreed.  I hope everyone on the chapter-delegates list has joined
the MemberPubPol list.

Just go to http://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/memberpubpol
to join.

Gene
gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com

On Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:39:09 AM, David wrote:

> Gene, 

> This is an important issue but let me encourage posters who wish to take
> it up here to please use only the MemberPubPol list as the Chapters
> Delegates list is really intended for chapter management and chapters
> relations issues. 

> Thanks
> David

> David McAuley
> Membership Director
> Internet Society
> 703-326-9880, ext 104
> 703-963-5887 (mobile)
> mcauley at isoc.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Gene
> Gaines
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:28 AM
> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org; Dr. Michael Nelson;
> memberpubpol at elists.isoc.org; lessig at eff.org; ssteele at eff.org
> Cc: Lloyd Etheredge
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] [MemberPubPol] US/Bush global
> Internetsurveillance & ISOC's emerging 2006 policy agenda


> T think an unhappy but necessary to ISOC's policy focus for 2006

> Lloyd Etheredge make a serious, important statement (below).

>  1) I hope that U.S. Internet professionals will make
>     statements concerning such secret Internet surveillance.

>  2) Here is a chance for ISOC to speak out simply and with
>     clarity.

> (A personal observation. By thoughtlessly conducting wiretap/ Internet
> surveillance outside the legal legislative and court system, I suspect
> that the Bush administration will have started a disclosure process in
> the CIA/NSA intelligence electronic surveillance activity that will do
> great damage to those agencies. I expect those on both sides of the
> issue will lose -- those concerned with freedom and also those concerned
> with protection through surveillance.)

> Gene Gaines
> gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com
> Sterling, Virginia USA


> On Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 12:34:02 PM, Lloyd wrote:

>> Dear ISOC Public Policy Members:
>>      A speculation: There may be new global issues in 2006 that 
>> require hard thinking and a high level of statesmanship.

>>      The Bush Administration's current public justifications about why

>> they cannot use a secret US court system for case-by-case 
>> wiretape/Internet surveillance orders don't add-up. I suspect that we 
>> will discover, in early 2006, that a global digital-age surveillance 
>> system without legal constraints is being constructed, and may already

>> be operating at an advanced level. E.g., full computer-assisted 
>> monitoring & initial scans for all email, Internet & phone traffic 
>> involving the Arab world, "suspect" addresses in Europe, etc. And 
>> perhaps large-scale monitoring of domestic Internet & telephone 
>> traffic from (and between?) people in a substantial list of non-US 
>> countries (without court orders, and perhaps without permission of the

>> governments, even of allies.)

>>      De facto, Europeans & other foreigners (including students) never

>> have had an enforceable right to privacy (etc.) from the National 
>> Security Agency and other US intelligence agencies, tho' the emerging 
>> revelations - the US-deployed technology & design of what will be seen

>> as global police state surveillance in the digital age - may help 
>> awaken everyone to how most of the $42 billion/year budget is being 
>> spent. And, in addition to these expenditures, there are going to be 
>> data-gathering dummy & cutout corporations involved, if normal 
>> tradecraft is observed.

>>       If this is right, the ISOC (and EFF?) issues in 2006 will be 
>> bigger and deeper than our normal ISOC public policy 
>> discussions/negotiations about legislated laws.

>>       - The credibility of American Internet-related corporations also

>> may be at risk because the Bush Administration has asserted that an 
>> American President has inherent rights beyond a rule-of-law American 
>> system. According to the NYTimes, it already issues "secret warrants" 
>> requiring libraries (for example) to turn-over all records and 
>> prohibits them from telling anyone, even their lawyers, about the 
>> orders. Do the world's Internet users know whether corporate carriers 
>> of the major Internet backbones in the US [with DOD contracts (etc.)] 
>> have been compromised and forced to cooperate, here and re global 
>> Internet traffic across the backbones?

>>       - Could this quickly become war - the global hacker/user 
>> community v. the Bush Administration? Will anger and cyberwar be 
>> limited to symbolic targets (global denial of service attacks against 
>> whitehouse.gov)? Will major American-based corporations involved in 
>> Internet-based services face economic damages and new regulatory 
>> requirements in the EU and many individual countries? Or be unable to 
>> grow internationally?

>>       The US Executive branch seems to be creating the alarming 
>> nightmare scenario that Pool's pioneering Technologies of Freedom 
>> (1983) tried to prevent via legislated public policies. Internet 
>> users, worldwide, will want more effective protection. And Internet 
>> governance [based in Switzerland?] that gives more political 
>> independence and (if possible) rule-of-law rights that can be 
>> enforced.

>>       Can ISOC & people who want the Internet to thrive as a 
>> "technology of freedom" chart a better future? Lloyd Etheredge

>> Dr. Lloyd S. Etheredge
>> Policy Sciences Center Inc.
>> 127 Wall St., Room 322 - Box 208215
>> New Haven, CT 06520-8215
>> URL: www.policyscience.net
>> 301-365-5241 (v); lloyd.etheredge at yale.edu (email)
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