<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">thanks jack... a couple of quips:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">#1.) yours truly believes that the ARPANET, et all was managed by the folks an "entity" known -- during that time -- as the NCC (Network Control Center), not the NOC.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">#2.) yours truly also seems to recall that the ARPANET was software-ly controlled by a PDP-1 not a PDP-10, viz. <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc301" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc301</a>:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><pre style="font-size:13.3333px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Network Working Group R. Alter
Request for Comments #301 BBN
NIC #9073 11 February 1972
References: None
Updates: None
Obsoletes: None
<span style="display:inline;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold"><h1 style="display:inline;font-size:1em">BBN IMP (#5) AND NCC SCHEDULE MARCH 4, 1971</h1></span>
On Saturday morning, March 4, 1972, at 0800 EST the BBN IMP (#5)
will go off the air to allow for a move of the equipment to a
new location in BBN's facilities. The NCC telephone and operators
will be available as usual during this period. We hope to have
the IMP back on the Network by early Saturday afternoon; the
choice of Saturday morning was made intentionally so that if by
some stroke of fate all our wideband lines stay down longer than
anticipated, the impact on others in the network will be minimized.
We anticipate that all other sites will operate normally through
this period.
Shortly subsequent to this move, a new Host will be connected to
the net. This is a PDP-1D at BBN which will be used for certain
additional NCC functions. It will not be a Server site. We
prefer the Host name "BBN-1D"; its network address will be 197.</pre></div></blockquote></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">seem to also recall that (Bernie Cosell?) had provided yours truly with the dialup phone # & access for the PDP-1 machine (since it was only an ARPANET "USER" host and did not allow incoming connections) that had a user telnet program called UTEL that yours truly connected back to SRI-AI at the time with, just for grins and giggles. :D</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">it would seem logical that at some point and time the yeoman's duty PDP-1 was summarily retired and the runnage of The Net was then moved to a more "modern" PDP-10 -- but don't have a timeline on that -- but do remember XNET though. :D</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">geoff</div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:31 AM Jack Haverty <<a href="mailto:jack@3kitty.org" target="_blank">jack@3kitty.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>On 11/7/19 12:05 PM, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">jack,
that was Really Excellent... say, in The Interest in further
documenting Internet History, could you please elucidate for us
on <b>The Internet "Control Panel"</b> and its
functionality/workings (as excerpted from your website -- <a href="http://3kitty.org/" target="_blank">http://3kitty.org/</a>):</div>
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<i>(At one point back around 1980, the "control panel" for
The Internet was on his desk!)</i>...</div>
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<p>Thanks, Geoff. Yes, there's lots of the history, perhaps most,
that was never captured in RFCs. Some of that was captured in
various contract deliverables, e.g., the Quarterly Technical
Reports that we all had to do.</p>
<p>That comment about the "control panel on my desk" came from an
offhand comment I made to someone who had asked about what I did
back in the early Internet days. The phrase was apparently a
good sound bite.</p>
<p>Here's what happened, as far as I can remember it. There's a lot
of detailed information about the early history in the QTRs we did
at BBN (and e.g., SRI), much of which is available online from
DTIC.</p>
<p>From the November 1981 BBN QTR (DTIC ADA108783):</p>
<p>"During this quarter, responsibility for gateway maintenance and
development was transferred from the Information Sciences Division
to the Computer Systems Division (now Communications Systems
Division). The motivation for this transfer was the need to
emphasize the treatment of the gateways as an operational
communications system, rather than a research tool to support the
growing user community. In this approach, we plan increasingly to
treat the gateway system much as we do the ARPANET and SATNET
systems in terms of monitoring and maintenance. This will require
increased emphasis on the development and enhancement of tools for
the remote operation of the gateways."</p>
<p>I remember writing that. Vint had talked to me earlier that year
to see if I was willing to take over the gateway work and fold it
in to the "operations and maintenance" we had already been doing
on the ARPANET for the previous 10 years as well as more recently
SATNET. I think Vint saw the need for the Internet to be up all
the time, not just for experiments and demos, and for someone to
be called to report problems.<br>
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<p>To me now, this was an inflection point in the history of the
Internet -- when it went from being a research tool to being an
operational 7x24 service. To accomplish that, we plagiarized
eagerly from the ARPANET, introducing the same kinds of tools and
processes that had evolved and been proven over the previous
decade. It also involved rewriting the gateways into assembly
language from the earlier research implementation in BCPL. Our
Division had been running the ARPANET for a decade, and the NOC
was just down the hall from the "Gateway Guys" offices, so
technology transfer was straightforward.<br>
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<p>At some point in that process, the gateways were added to the
repertoire of things that the ARPANET NOC operated on a 24x7
basis, and a gateway control terminal appeared inside the
ARPANET/SATNET operations room, and the operator(s) on duty were
responsible for also keeping the gateways running, just as they
had been doing for the ARPANET and SATNET IMPs.</p>
<p>Prior to that, of course we had to build and debug the
appropriate software. The "control console" was simply a terminal
connected to the BBN PDP-10 where the management software ran.
Sorry, I can't remember the name of the software, or which BBN-xxx
machine it was on. You could "control the Internet" simply by
connecting a terminal to that software, and your terminal became
the "control console".</p>
<p>So, as that quote says, at some point before it went to the NOC
I'm sure I tried it out by connecting from the terminal on my
desk. I had a reputation for being able to find bugs within
minutes after somebody declared something ready.<br>
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<p>However, it was much more likely that the control console was in
use by somebody else, either working in my group or one of the
ARPANET-related ones. At the time, Bob Hinden, Mike Brescia, and
Alan Sheltzer were working on gateway development, and writing the
code. David Floodpage had been developing the CMCC - Catenet
Monitoring and Control Center, which was used to operate SATNET.
Marty Schoffstall was working on other pieces - e.g., what later
became SNMP. Lots of other people who I have probably missed.</p>
<p>We pushed very hard on getting mechanisms into place in the
IP/gateway world that reflected the tools that had proven useful
in the ARPANET - things like Traps, Software Download (see XNET),
traffic statistics, controls, patching, etc. Lots of that stuff
eventually made its way into RFCs et al, and also made the
Internet into a 24x7 service.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>/Jack Haverty</p>
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