<div dir="ltr">aloha net was a terminal access system that terminated on the UH time-shared server through the Menehune alohanet controller. No packet went from the Alohanet devices through an IP gateway. This is an application level gateway at best.<div><br></div><div>vint</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 6:27 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    That late? Wasn't there ALOHAnet back in '71?<br>
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    Best,<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">July (or at least summer?) 1976 between the Packet
        Radio network mobile host (LSI-11) and probably a host at
        USC-ISI on the ARPANET. Nov 22, 1977 was the first 3 net test,
        adding the Packet Satellite Network
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:38 PM
          Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Party pooper!
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            <div dir="auto">When was the first actual inter-network
              message sent using packet technology?<br>
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                <a href="tel:(218)%20565-9365" value="+12185659365" target="_blank">218 565 9365</a></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 5:13
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                <div>50 years ago the first data was sent between two
                  ARPANET IMPS. The ARPANET was a forerunner of the
                  Internet but was not itself an internet. It was a
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at
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                  Today's Topics:<br>
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                     1. WEBCAST TODAY: 50 Years Later, Looking Back at
                  the Internet?s<br>
                        Birth / Celebrando el aniversario 50 de Internet
                  (Joly MacFie)<br>
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                  Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 06:08:33 -0500<br>
                  From: Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>><br>
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                  Subject: [ih] WEBCAST TODAY: 50 Years Later, Looking
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                  A brief follow up to last week's major do<br>
                  <<a href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50</a>>
                  in LA, with a latin<br>
                  flavor.<br>
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                  ISOC Live posted: "On Tuesday 5 November at 17:00 UTC
                  (12:00 EST) LACNIC<br>
                  will commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first
                  packet sent over the<br>
                  Internet with a webinar: 50 Years Later, Looking Back
                  at the Internet's<br>
                  Birth. LACNIC's special guests will be three of the
                  engin"<br>
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                  <br>
                  On *Tuesday 5 November* at *17:00 UTC* (12:00 EST)
                  LACNIC will commemorate<br>
                  the 50th anniversary of the first packet sent over the
                  Internet with a<br>
                  webinar: *50 Years Later, Looking Back at the
                  Internet's Birth*. LACNIC's<br>
                  special guests will be three of the engineers behind
                  that achievement: *Leonard<br>
                  Kleinrock*, *Charles Kline*, and *Steve Crocker*. The
                  webinar will be<br>
                  simulcast, in both English and Spanish, on the
                  *Internet Society Livestream<br>
                  Channels <<a href="https://isoc.live/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/</a>>*.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: <a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50lacnic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50lacnic</a><br>
                  <<a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50lacnic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://livestream.com/internetsociety/internet50lacnic</a>>
                  (ENGLISH) VIEW ON<br>
                  USTREAM: <a href="https://video.ibm.com/channel/DKWsjfRLtPe" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://video.ibm.com/channel/DKWsjfRLtPe</a><br>
                  <<a href="https://video.ibm.com/channel/DKWsjfRLtPe" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://video.ibm.com/channel/DKWsjfRLtPe</a>>
                  (ENGLISH)*<br>
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                  El *martes 5 de noviembre* a las *17:00 UTC* (12:00
                  EST), LACNIC<br>
                  conmemorar? el 50 aniversario del primer paquete
                  enviado por Internet con<br>
                  un webinar: *Celebrando el aniversario 50 de
                  Internet*. Los invitados<br>
                  especiales de LACNIC ser?n tres de los ingenieros
                  detr?s de ese logro: *Leonard<br>
                  Kleinrock*, *Charles Kline* y *Steve Crocker*. El
                  webinar se transmitir?<br>
                  simult?neamente, en ingl?s y espa?ol, en los canales
                  de* Internet Society<br>
                  Livestream <<a href="https://isoc.live/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/</a>>*.<br>
                  <br>
                  *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM:<br>
                  <a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety2/internet50lacnic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://livestream.com/internetsociety2/internet50lacnic</a><br>
                  <<a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety2/internet50lacnic" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://livestream.com/internetsociety2/internet50lacnic</a>>
                  (ESPA?OL)*<br>
                  *VIEW ON USTREAM: <a href="https://video.ibm.com/channel/wJD3jzyMV7X" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://video.ibm.com/channel/wJD3jzyMV7X</a><br>
                  <<a href="https://video.ibm.com/channel/wJD3jzyMV7X" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://video.ibm.com/channel/wJD3jzyMV7X</a>>
                  (ESPA?OL)*<br>
                  <br>
                  *INFO: <a href="http://bit.ly/webinarInternet50" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/webinarInternet50</a>
                  <<a href="http://bit.ly/webinarInternet50" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/webinarInternet50</a>>*<br>
                  <br>
                  *TWITTER: @LACNIC #Internet50 <<a href="http://bit.ly/34A3ijl" rel="noreferrer
                    noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/34A3ijl</a>>*<br>
                  <br>
                  *Permalink*<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">New postal address:
          <div>Google<br>
            <div>1875 Explorer Street, 10th Floor</div>
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