<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The PARC Ethernet that immediately preceded Blue Book was 2.94 Mbps, not 3. The difference is greater than the bandwidth of ARPANET at the time. I think an even earlier prototype was 1 Mbps. These were both thin coax systems as thick net was a Blue Book designed-by-committee monstrosity with poor noise modeling.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">RB</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 14, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Noel Chiappa <<a href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" class="">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: Jorge Amodio<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thank you so much for your detailed response<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Indeed, it was a fantastic and fascinating glimpse into a too-little-known<br class="">corner of computing history.<br class=""><br class="">For those who would like to know more, in addition to online sources, I can<br class="">recommend "Datapoint: The Lost Story of the Texans Who Invented the Personal<br class="">Computer Revolution", by Lamont Wood. (I'm not sure if those who were there,<br class="">like Mr. Peterson, would consider it accurate, but it seemed to be to be quite<br class="">good.)<br class=""><br class="">Typical nugget: the Intel 8008 was not a descendant of the Intel 4004<br class="">(although the production chips did use technology developed for the 4004), as<br class="">commonly thought at one point; rather, it was developed for Datapoint<br class="">(although they wound up building their own CPU out of discrete components).<br class="">The 8008 developed into the 8080, and then the 8086... and I expect many of us<br class="">are reading this on its descendants.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I'll follow up on a private message so I don't get the rest of the list<br class="">bored with details.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Bored? Never! :-)<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 6:18 PM Gordon Peterson <<a href="mailto:gep2@terabites.com" class="">gep2@terabites.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">(...and, at the time, Ethernet.... which wasn't a released product yet...<br class="">was running at just 2 megabits<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">Minor nit - 3.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">"Oh, Gordon," my colleagues told me. "It's a good system, but you're<br class="">crazy... big businesses will never give up their mainframes and run their<br class="">processing on networks of little computers."<br class="">I grinned at them and replied, "You just WATCH!" :-)<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">I suspect many people on this list have had similar experiences! (In my case,<br class="">circa mid-80s, telling my now-wife that one day everyone would have<br class="">email... :-)<br class=""><br class="">It would be interesting to collect stories about when we got glimpses of the<br class="">future. I am particularly thinking of Craig's story about Swedish train<br class="">timetables; my equivalent was going home to Bermuda at one point and seeing<br class="">URL's painted on commercial vehicles.<br class=""><br class=""> Noel<br class="">_______<br class="">internet-history mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" class="">internet-history@postel.org</a><br class="">http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history<br class="">Contact list-owner@postel.org for assistance.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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