<div dir="ltr">setting aside reputation, bittorrent is a pretty clever scheme for a implementing a distributed cache.<div>I thought it included cacheing so you can find multiple sources but maybe I am wrong about that.</div><div><br></div><div>v</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:03 AM Jack Haverty <<a href="mailto:jack@3kitty.org">jack@3kitty.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I've never used Bittorrent, but it may already have a lot of the needed<br>
technology. <br>
<br>
>From what I've read, some of the differences between my "Benevolent<br>
BotNet" and BitTorrent seem to be:<br>
<br>
- Content is stored outside of BitTorrent per se, e.g., on web<br>
servers. Torrent servers essentially act as caches for material in<br>
transit. So if there is no server online which has stored the content<br>
you seek, and it's not recently in transit, it's unavailable until a<br>
server with that content come online. That's not persistent. <br>
BitTorrent is a distribution mechanism, rather than a storage mechanism<br>
which does replication of material to achieve persistence.<br>
<br>
- There isn't any obvious (to me) way to restrict what your personal<br>
machine might store or serve. People willing to donate their resources<br>
to, for example, host historical material, might not be willing to<br>
handle all the other stuff that zips around in BitTorrent.<br>
<br>
- BitTorrent has a somewhat dubious reputation as a vehicle for<br>
illegal activities. Again, people may be reluctant to use it for<br>
historical purposes.<br>
<br>
I may be wrong in the above, since I've never dug deeply into the<br>
technology. But clearly BitTorrent has a lot of the underlying<br>
technology that could be used to do what I described (which is what I've<br>
been trying to say). People do use it to distribute content, but I<br>
believe that they have to handle the persistent storage themselves by<br>
keeping the material stored on probably several servers.<br>
<br>
The other missing pieces might simply be promoting it as a way to store<br>
historical material and then start using it. I suspect some amount of<br>
"how-to" documentation appropriate for non-techies might be needed too.<br>
<br>
/Jack<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2/24/19 6:53 PM, John Levine wrote:<br>
>> That's what I find intriguing about my Benevolent BotNet notion. Rather<br>
>> than depending on finding an institution interested in, competent at,<br>
>> and willing to save history, and hoping that it has longevity, you rely<br>
>> on a network of volunteers to provide that survivable infrastructure by<br>
>> volunteering their excess computing resources. <br>
> Hi again. Please look at Bittorrent and tell us how it is different<br>
> from what you're proposing.<br>
><br>
> Bittorrent has the advantage of already existing and being deployed<br>
> all over the world. It's notorious for pirated music but it's also<br>
> widely used for sharing linux distributions and the like.<br>
><br>
> R's,<br>
> John<br>
><br>
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