<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Do you watch the HBO series, “Silicon Valley?” There was a hilarious bit where Jared when on Bloomberg Tech with a story about horse manure accumulation in London before the car was invented. Seems that he speculated that something like 100 feet of shit per day was coming soon if alternative transportation wasn’t invented. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Necessity is the momma, after all.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">RB<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:29 PM, John Day <<a href="mailto:jeanjour@comcast.net" class="">jeanjour@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">In the late 19th Century, the Chicago Stockyards developed a research lab to find uses for the waste they were creating. Partly because they were creating so much, but mainly because to get people to try meat that wasn’t butchered by their local butcher, they were selling the meat at a loss and making their profit on the waste.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 5, 2018, at 15:01, Richard Bennett <<a href="mailto:richard@bennett.com" class="">richard@bennett.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Conventional wisdom depend on anecdote for its propagation. A number of pieces of serious research have been cited on this thread, however.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 5, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Noel Chiappa <<a href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" class="">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: Richard Bennett <<a href="mailto:richard@bennett.com" class="">richard@bennett.com</a>><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Organizations such as Bell Labs and IBM Research pretty much put a<br class="">dagger in the heart of 'big companies don't innovate'<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Bell's a bad example, because it was a regulated monopoly; I gather things<br class="">changed a lot after AT+T split up.<br class=""><br class="">There are plenty of older examples people aren't bringing up, though, such as<br class="">the Trans-Atlantic telegraph cable.<br class=""><br class="">Still, I think this whole debate is a perfect example of 'the plural of<br class="">"anecdote" isn't "data"'.<br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> Noel<br class=""><br class="">_______<br class="">internet-history mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" class="">internet-history@postel.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history" class="">http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history</a><br class="">Contact <a href="mailto:list-owner@postel.org" class="">list-owner@postel.org</a> for assistance.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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