<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_156102">Noel,</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_156131"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_156104">I have an email address for Jim. I am not sure if he wants it broadcasted on an email list so I will send you a separate message.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155383"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155385" dir="ltr">I also saw Carl Sunshine at a meeting about 6 years ago. He was working for the Aerospace Corporation. I don't know if he is still there. If you can't find other information for him, I know people who work at Aerospace who might be able to give me his email address or let me know if he is still there.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155491"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155495">barbara<br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155213"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155099" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155098"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155097"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155096"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155101" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155669"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155668">From:</span></b> "internet-history-request@postel.org" <internet-history-request@postel.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> internet-history@postel.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 13, 2017 12:00 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> internet-history Digest, Vol 111, Issue 6<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155103"><br>Send internet-history mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155933">internet-history@postel.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155935">http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:internet-history-request@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history-request@postel.org">internet-history-request@postel.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:internet-history-owner@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history-owner@postel.org">internet-history-owner@postel.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of internet-history digest..."<br><br><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155178"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155180"><br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. TCP/IP timeline (Paul Ruizendaal)<br> 2. RAND Unix Port code (Noel Chiappa)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:50:15 +0100<br>From: Paul Ruizendaal <<a ymailto="mailto:pnr@planet.nl" href="mailto:pnr@planet.nl" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155109">pnr@planet.nl</a>><br>Subject: [ih] TCP/IP timeline<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155111">internet-history@postel.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:CBB28295-44C7-46B2-945A-48D4F0DA6214@planet.nl" href="mailto:CBB28295-44C7-46B2-945A-48D4F0DA6214@planet.nl" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487006001067_155113">CBB28295-44C7-46B2-945A-48D4F0DA6214@planet.nl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br><br>Many thanks for the feedback on my earlier questions around the<br>TCP/IP specification timeline.<br><br>To get things clear in my mind I made a little table linking<br>dates with IEN/RFC numbers. The result is here:<br><a href="https://1fichier.com/?03hz69bj5e" target="_blank">https://1fichier.com/?03hz69bj5e </a>(one page 24KB PDF).<br><br>Of course, it doesn't mean much as long as the changes from<br>version to version are not clear. It could be real change and<br>it could be editorial clean-up.<br><br>I've also noted the caution that development of the specs and<br>of the code bases may not be the same.<br><br>Paul<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 12:09:19 -0500 (EST)<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a> (Noel Chiappa)<br>Subject: [ih] RAND Unix Port code<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org">internet-history@postel.org</a><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:wkt@tuhs.org" href="mailto:wkt@tuhs.org">wkt@tuhs.org</a>, <a ymailto="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20170213170919.8552E18C09C@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" href="mailto:20170213170919.8552E18C09C@mercury.lcs.mit.edu">20170213170919.8552E18C09C@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a>><br><br>I'm not sure if this news has spread widely yet, but I have just recovered a<br>complete copy of the filesystem for the MIT-CSR Unix (the V6 Unix system at<br>MIT-LCS on which most of the early TCP/IP work at MIT was done). I have found<br>many treasures therein, including several early TCP/IP's. (More on this<br>below.)<br><br>I'm trying to make them all accessible through Unix source archives:<br><br> <a href="http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl" target="_blank">http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl</a><br><br>for public access. To do so, I need to make sure they are all OK to release<br>publicly. (Back in the day, they were not, but that was because the underlying<br>UNIX code was protected.)<br><br>One of them is the BBN TCP/IP done by Mike Wingfield. It uses the RAND Port<br>code, and I'm trying to work out who can tell me, or OK, the release of that<br>code.<br><br>Alas, Steven Zucker, the person who wrote the RAND report detailing the<br>implementation of ports (and likely the actual author of the code) is no<br>longer with us. Carl Sunshine wrote the overview document, but I don't know<br>how to reach him - does anyone here? Does anyone else have any information<br>on whether or not we can make this code public? Thanks!<br><br><br>We do not, alas, have the source for the first BBN Unix TCP/IP - the one done<br>by Jack Havery as, I am under the impression, a port of Jim Mathis' TIU code.<br><br>We do, however, have the complete TIU source, and I hope to make that<br>available too. Same question(s) about that: does anyone know how to reach Jim,<br>or know anything about the releaseability of that code? (I seem to recall it<br>was done under contract to DARPA, and so probably was open, but not all code<br>written under a contract with the USG is necessarily public.)<br><br><br>Thanks!<br><br> Noel<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>internet-history mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:internet-history@postel.org" href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org">internet-history@postel.org</a><br><a href="http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history" target="_blank">http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history</a><br>Contact <a ymailto="mailto:list-owner@postel.org" href="mailto:list-owner@postel.org">list-owner@postel.org</a> for assistance.<br><br><br>End of internet-history Digest, Vol 111, Issue 6<br>************************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>