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<p>Hi, Mark, et al.,</p>
<p>First, please forward me that email with headers intact. Can you
also send me the headers you receive for this message, to use as
comparison?<br>
</p>
<p>FYI, the past instances of this issue all had headers indicating
the mail came from ISI, i.e., they looked exactly as they should
if they were generated by the Mailman system itself.</p>
<p>The header portion below is listed as coming from a 10-net
address, which shouldn't even be crossing the Internet, so I'm not
yet sure what it's evidence of.<br>
</p>
<p>Joe<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/2016 9:49 PM, Miles Fidelman
wrote:<br>
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<p>Well, just got another one, timestamped 9:12</p>
<p>And where the earlier ones asked me to confirm my unsubscribe
request, this one says that it's forwarded it to the admin.</p>
<p>And no, I did not send the original request - the From: line
must be forged. But... looking at the headers, it looks like it
REALLY came from:</p>
<p>from [unsubscribe] (unknown [10.10.31.123]) by
smtp01.vaderetro-safeunsubscribe.com (Postfix) with SMTP id
ED4591BF7CB for <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:internet-history-request@postel.org"><internet-history-request@postel.org></a>;
Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:11:49 +0200 (CEST)<br>
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<p>So who the hell is vaderetro-safeunsubscribe.com, and why is it
trying to unsubscribe people from internet-history?</p>
<p>Miles Fidelman<br>
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<pre wrap="">The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
original message.
- Results:
Your unsubscription request has been forwarded to the list administrator for
approval.
- Done.
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display:inline;">Subject:
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unsubscribe</td>
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display:inline;">From:
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net">mfidelman@meetinghouse.net</a></td>
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display:inline;">Date:
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8/23/16, 9:11 PM</td>
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display:inline;">To:
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:internet-history-request@postel.org">internet-history-request@postel.org</a></td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/16 8:43 PM, Joe Touch wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi, all,
On 8/23/2016 4:15 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 8/23/16 6:35 PM, Alan Clegg wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 8/23/16 6:13 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I get them as well. I've seen them on other lists too.
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<pre wrap="">The usual approach is to send mail to parts of the list with tagged
addresses to see which ones trigger the unsub-bot, and narrow it down to
the guilty party.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">Or to just save incoming messages to -request, so one can look at the
headers.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">The header indicates it's coming from the mailman system. I.e., these
aren't forged; they're unsub requests.
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<pre wrap="">If only there were programmers around to make this happen....
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<pre wrap="">Not even - just a sysadmin who can update the alias for -request, to add
an actual mailbox.
Who's listmaster for ih anyway?
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<pre wrap="">I am.
I did some digging on this issue and the suggestion is to disable user
unsubscribe completely (i.e., requires admin OK). Since I don't track
those mails, it may be more difficult to get off the list now, but at
least the stream of unsubs should calm down.
Please let me know if you see further unsub requests.
Joe
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra</pre>
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