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<p>Silly observation perhaps, but given that it's all caps, and
there's no acronym expansion given in the early specs - could it
simply be somebody's idea of a cool sounding name (or maybe just a
convenient one)?</p>
<p>Miles<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/22/16 3:45 PM, Alex McKenzie
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recollection that Telnet is an abbreviation of "Teletype
network." (I know I'm getting old and my recollections are
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Well, I kind of new you were making a joke and I agree
that ‘telecommunication network’ always sounded to
cumbersome to me too. It might have been 'telecom
network.’ Looking for it this morning, it certainly
looked like it got lost pretty early. There is a lot of
talk about it being process-to-process or
terminal-to-terminal, but nothing that would get you
Telnet.<br clear="none">
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And of course, it go very confusing when they spun out
Telenet.<br clear="none">
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As for the eunuchs, that even goes to “2nd order’ use!
Unix is of course a castrated Multics. And in 1975, when
we put the first Unix up on the Net on our PDP-11/45,
the next thing was to strip it down to make it fit on an
LSI-11, which of course we called eunix. ;-)<br
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Then there was the Burros MCP. The lowest level
languages on the machine were Algol and an extension of
Algol for writing OSs called ESPOL. So all programs
looked like procedures. The OS was just a process with
a stack and user processes were simply procedures given
their own stack (it was called a cactus stack). The uses
process was set up to on completion simply return back
to the OS stack. The procedure in the OS that created
user jobs was of course called Motherforker. The
schedule queue was called the sheet. So of course there
were variables related to it called stackofsheet and
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> On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:12, Dave Crocker <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:dhc2@dcrocker.net"
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> On 8/22/2016 6:31 AM, John Day wrote:<br
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>> I always heard that Telnet stood for
"telecommunications network.”<br clear="none">
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> Well, I meant to be a bit ironic, but didn't work
hard enough at it (or <br clear="none">
> proofread well enough.) Over the years, I've
repeatedly heard that the <br clear="none">
> origin of the word was lost and that people debated
it's meaning.<br clear="none">
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> My own inclination is to be that it really did mean
telephone network, <br clear="none">
> since it directly replaced terminal dial-up
service. Besides that, <br clear="none">
> something like 'telecomunications network' strikes
me as more cumbersome <br clear="none">
> terminology than folks were using for naming on
Arpanet stuff.[*]<br clear="none">
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> d/<br clear="none">
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> [*] And 'cumbersome naming' triggers a memory of
some naming games <br clear="none">
> played at the UCLA project in the late 60s, which
did an o/s, somewhat <br clear="none">
> comparable to Tenex. And since my morning caffeine
hasn't kicked in <br clear="none">
> enough yet, residual disinhibitions lead to this
recitation: The team <br clear="none">
> building it included Vint, my brother Steve, Jon
Postel and others. They <br clear="none">
> decided on an 'urban' model for naming. One day my
brother asked our <br clear="none">
> father for help naming one item they were stuck on,
describing it as the <br clear="none">
> component that allocated time to a process and
ended the allocation when <br clear="none">
> the time was up. With no hesitation, our father
said "that's the madam". <br clear="none">
> I'm told that one member of the team got quite
irritated by the <br clear="none">
> continuing effort to come up with clever names and
demanded "Let's call <br clear="none">
> a spade a space". So the team renamed the effort
the Spade Working <br clear="none">
> Group. The computer they were building for was an
XDS Sigma 7, so the <br clear="none">
> operating system became the Sigma Executive, with
the obvious acronym. <br clear="none">
> When I got hired, one of my tasks was to document
this effort. The <br clear="none">
> result was the SEX Manual. The system was always
memory bound and the <br clear="none">
> team located some additional memory for sale,
asking ARPA for the money. <br clear="none">
> Instead ARPA said we should get an access computer
-- the first <br clear="none">
> versions of ANTS and ELF were available -- and use
resources around the <br clear="none">
> net. The version 2 efforts for both access systems
were problematic in <br clear="none">
> various ways, but eventually we installed a new o/s
that came out of <br clear="none">
> Bell Labs. So ARPA took our SEX away and gave us
Unix. Predictably the <br clear="none">
> initial superuser password was indeed eunuchs.<br
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