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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 03.09.2014 um 23:02 schrieb Andrew
G. Malis:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Detlef,
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<div>I disagree with "Defective hardware is not a scientific
problem but something for the waste basket." Well, it may not
be a scientific problem, but it certainly is an engineering
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Yes. <br>
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The problem is perhaps the discussion itself.<br>
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Including my typo, I wanted to write "why did congestion happen at
all?" and pressed the enter key to early.<br>
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What I want to discuss is congestion and congestion control -
intentionally with a clean slate approach in mind.<br>
For this purpose, you necessarily need assumptions. The question is:
Which assumptions are reasonable and decent? And which aren't?<br>
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When we forget the term "history" at the moment, the assumption
"intact interface" is much more reasonable than much other
assumptions we make.<br>
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Particularly for this very discussion, I think it is reasonable to
assume working hardware.<br>
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However, particularly after Paul Vixie's rant, I would appreciate a
pointer to a more suitable venue for this discussion. I'm not
willing to discuss scientific questions in that manner. <br>
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And yes, it MUST be possible to put in question approaches which are
broadly used, we cannot learn without asking questions.<br>
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But Paul's kind of yelling is simply not acceptable for me.
Particularly as he did not bring arguments but very personal
invectives. (And did not really read what I wrote, I never proposed
a "core based" congestion control scheme, what is "core based"? So
when someone think, a statement or a claim of mine were wrong, I
would appreciated at least being quoted correctly.)<br>
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