<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM, John R. Levine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" target="_blank">johnl@iecc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There really is nothing new about job accounting for expensive equipment used for different jobs.</blockquote></div><br>
Very true. Management is about using resources, and you can't manage what you can't measure. Fascinating discussion... it got me thinking about the Internet (this *is* the internet-history list).</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">In particular, is The Internet the first and only "infrastructure" (widespread resource used by everybody) that has been developed with no associated mechanism for accounting? I can't recall a single protocol, packet header, or such mechanism, at least from the early days of 70s/80s, that had anything even resembling an "account" field to enable usage to be associated back to some specific "account".</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">There were some attempts (I pushed on "usage accounting" back in the 80s but it got pretty much ignored), but I think nothing much ever developed ingrained in the Internet architecture. The culture of the 60s/70s/80s was simply against it, and the ARPANET started, and ended, with no accounting. Computers had accounting. ARPANET, and the Internet, do not. How come?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I also can't offhand think of any other infrastructure without some kind of accounting or at least "feedback" mechanism to make usage visible to the user. Transportation, energy, etc., all have had such mechanisms from their early days. Anything that involves sharing a resource is likely to have some kind of accounting.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think this is changing now in The Internet, as usage skyrockets with video, and cellular carriers notice the costs of provisioning for use of such resources by masses of people as an everyday activity. Millions of devices that all seem to need their software upgraded daily is probably a factor too.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Is this finally the beginning of Internet accounting? Is it A Bad Idea? And is the Internet the first or only infrastructure to make it this far (approaching 1/2 of the world population!) without any such mechanism?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">/Jack Haverty</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div>