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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2012-07-01 4:05 AM, John Day wrote:<br>
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<div>Dave you are being too much the engineer and not enough the
historian. ;-) I want the intellectual history of arriving
at the concepts in Telnet.</div>
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<div>How did the ideas come about?</div>
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<div>If Bernie is right (and I assume he is), and his name is not
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that paper (and it isn't), then it can not possibly answer the
question I am asking. ;-)<br>
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so, i am not dave, and i was only a kid when this was going on, but
i have a rimshot.<br>
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the idea of symmetrical negotiation, do/don't, will/won't, is so
obviously right that it feels like a gear meshing with other gears.
it was the right thing to do, requiring only that some brilliant
person unpolluted by complicated or proprietary ways of thinking,
start from first principles, and hammer out the details.<br>
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in that it reminds me of IP, TCP, and SMTP. (not not IP6 or DNS or
FTP or HTTP.)<br>
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"how did the ideas come about?" in this example made me think of a
hegelian trichotomy. "because it was the right context to beget
this." litmus test: "will the historians all say that the right
person was finally in the right place at the right time to cause one
era to end and the next to begin."<br>
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it's not a great dictum for daily living but it does seem to fit a
lot of the early "internet" work to a "t".<br>
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paul<br>
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