PS, The paper at this place summarizes the Telnet development:<div>
<a href="http://walden-family.com/public/telnet-overview.pdf">http://walden-family.com/public/telnet-overview.pdf</a> </div><div>See the list of RFCs on various aspects of the evolution on the last page (bottom right) of the paper.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 PM, John Day <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeanjour@comcast.net" target="_blank">jeanjour@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
That clears that up.<br>
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And as Bob suggested, did it hit you all at once? I wouldn't be surprised these things often do.<br>
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Did you also come up with the NVT?<br>
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Could you expound on it a bit more?<br>
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This is a stroke of brilliance. It would be nice to know how it came about. It deserves to be better known.<br>
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I still teach Telnet even though it is no longer in the textbooks. I tell the students that I do it not because they need to know how Telnet works. But it is an elegant solution to a problem that no one else saw. and they may find an analogous situation someday. And because too many "brilliant" CS professors and textbook authors these days refer to it as a remote login protocol, when it was no such thing. I want the students to know that while the current crop of professors may not have much imagination, others did.<br>
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John<br>
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At 18:49 -0400 2012/06/30, Bernie Cosell wrote:<br>
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On 30 Jun 2012 at 18:10, John Day wrote:<br>
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Who came up with the symmetrical Telnet design? I remember Alex<br>
wrote it up after the meeting (or at least Grossman told me Alex was<br>
writing it up), but when I "blamed" him for it ;-), he wouldn't take<br>
the credit.<br>
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Well, I probably mostly did that. I did the will/wont/do/dont stuff on<br>
the airplane as Walden and I were flying out to some meeting [at UCLA, I<br>
think] where we addressed telnet.<br>
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It was clear from my work with the TIP [I was the TIP czar at the time]<br>
that the asymmetry in the protocol was just not right. What I was<br>
thinking about was host<->host connections where there was really no<br>
point in having one end be the 'server' and the other be the 'client'.<br>
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