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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:29 AM, John Day <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeanjour@comcast.net">jeanjour@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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<div class="im">Again, IFIP was not OSI. They didn't even have a vote in ISO. They didn't even constitute a majority of the X.500 subgroup. </div></blockquote>
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<div class="gmail_quote">This is useful, constructive information that I appreciate.</div>
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<div class="im">But then you weren't there so I am sure you have a better perspective than I do.</div></blockquote>
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<div>This is not. </div>
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<div>In fact, this kind of unnecessary snarkiness and vitriol pops up frequently on this list, much to its discredit. I'm always up for a lively dialogue, and, perhaps most importantly, I'm always willing to admit when I'm wrong. You are right -- I do need to tighten up my language. A discourse like this where we try to establish historical circumstances should involve precisely these kinds of concessions. Nowhere was I making an attempt to 'tell' anyone anything. I was simply trying to elucidate some of my current findings. Knowledge, rather than ego-bruising, was and still is my intention.</div>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">You have third hand view of OSI, I have a first hand view.</blockquote>
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<div>This attitude also frequently shows itself on the list, and is almost entirely useless to the task of history. A third-person view is exactly what is needed. I'm not doubting anyone's technical expertise, or the prominence of the role they played in all of this. That is not my concern at all. In fact, I would very much like to incorporate first hand views into my overall third hand view. That's what this is all about.</div>
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<div>Isn't it?</div>
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<div>Eric</div>