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<div>At 23:43 -0400 2010/10/11, Ernie Rubi wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Folks,</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Thanks to all who've chimed here in these
last few hours; your insight has been spot on.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>From some of the uncomfortable replies to
the original broadly-worded questions in my message I can tell I've
asked the right questions.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>I hope these questions challenge your
assumptions about the issue as much as they've made me rethink some of
my assumptions about networking and the legal framework of the
Internet.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>As a final thought, perhaps the 'home
address' analogy is strained in this context - maybe we should compare
this to the ownership of phone numbers (and their
portability).</blockquote>
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<div>Not in the least. I gave it some further thought after I
sent my last email as to whether "ownership" was linked more
to a "service" rather than the address per se and realized
that no that was not it. Any "service" enabled by the
address, should not be a property of the IP address at all. The
whole problem of ownership comes down to the Internet lacking a
complete architecture;.</div>
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<div>Your analogy to keeping your phone number is flawed. Phone
numbers are no longer addresses but application names. Phone
number ceased to network addresses 20+ years ago.</div>
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<div>As I said, if you think addresses can owned, then you have not
thought about the problem carefully enough.</div>
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<div>Take care,</div>
<div>John</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Finally, I must say I agree with Mr. Cerf
in his comments at the IGF a few weeks back; I'm not sure it's does
anyone any good to run around selling v4 space - what we likely should
be doing is encouraging all who can to implement v6 to the extent
possible.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Thank you all very much,</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Ernesto M. Rubi</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Sr. Network Engineer</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>AMPATH/CIARA</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Florida International Univ,
Miami</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Reply-to: <a
href="mailto:ernesto@cs.fiu.edu">ernesto@cs.fiu.edu</a></blockquote>
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