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    <p>Hi Carlos</p>
    <p>The link and password are working for me. Could you please check
      again? If you still have problems, please contact me directly.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Flávio</p>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I
          was trying to access this <br>
          <br>
          <div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Reference:
            Q3 Full ChAC Call <span class="gmail-il"><span
                class="gmail-il">Recording</span></span>: </div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(42,43,45)"><span
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href="https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc</a></font> </span>(Passcode:
              ?=3YF98F)</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(42,43,45)"><br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(42,43,45)">It
              seems I making some mistake in the passcode.. it says is
              wrong... <br>
              <br>
              Is there a list of call recording to navigate? If so can
              you please share here?<br>
              <br>
              I'm also interested in the Q2 call and others related to
              the ChAC Charter (not only the Chapter Charter)<br>
              <br>
              Thank you for your help<br>
              <br>
              Carlos Vera</span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 23 sept 2026 a las
          13:00, Flávio Rech Wagner (<<a
            href="mailto:flavio@inf.ufrgs.br" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">flavio@inf.ufrgs.br</a>>)
          escribió:<br>
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            <p>Hi Carlos</p>
            <div>Regarding the rationale for updating the Chapter
              Charter Agreement, please refer to the <a
href="https://isoc.box.com/s/j3u43egd9wx7c0wd9cvilt85zltvo65a"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">agenda</a> and
              the recording (see link and password below) of yesterday’s
              Full ChAC Call.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>At the bottom ("Notes" section) of the agenda there is
              a note as a reminder of the rationale and context behind
              the revision of the Chapter Charter Agreement, referring
              to the ChAC Action Plan for 2026 (shared with the ChAC
              during the Q1 Full ChAC Call) and to the Chapter DNA
              document (presented during the Q2 Full ChAC Call), with
              appropriate links.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The current consultation on a new version of the
              Chapter Charter Agreement is thus a subsequent step in
              this process and follows those two previous steps, that
              were presented and discussed with all ChAC representatives
              during the Q1 and Q2 Full ChAC Calls.</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>Best,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Flávio</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>------</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording: </div>
            <div><span
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                  style="color:rgb(13,107,222)"><font color="#96607d"><a
href="https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc</a></font> </span>(Passcode:
                ?=3YF98F)</span></div>
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                  <p>Dear all,</p>
                  <p>I would like to reiterate that I do not see a clear
                    rationale for changing the agreement with the
                    Chapters. The fact that it has only been in force
                    for eight years is not, in itself, a problem. On the
                    contrary, it is generally desirable to have
                    agreements that are durable and remain valid over
                    time.</p>
                  <p>At this point, we have not been presented with
                    clear arguments explaining why the agreement should
                    be changed or what specifically needs to be changed.</p>
                  <p>The process seems to have moved directly to
                    requesting input on possible changes without first
                    establishing a clear understanding of their purpose
                    and rationale. This risks becoming a process without
                    a clearly stated justification or any evident
                    benefits.</p>
                  <p>Is there any analysis supporting this proposal? Are
                    there specific areas of the current agreement that
                    have created conflicts, difficulties, or identified
                    needs that should be considered?</p>
                  <p>Best regards,</p>
                  <p>Carlos Vera<br>
                    ISOC Ecuador</p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 22 sept 2026 a
                  las 23:55, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates (<<a
                    href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>)
                  escribió:<br>
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                      <div>On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech Wagner via
                        Chapter-delegates wrote:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Hi,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday, I think
                        it worthwhile that those who submitted changes
                        post them here since the CHaC is not allowed
                        to.  There is no limitation on someone who
                        submitted a change to voluntarily post what they
                        submitted. </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>To remind everyone of the various documents:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><a
href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf</a> 
                        [8 year old current charter agreement]</div>
                      <div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf</a></div>
                      <div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568</a></div>
                      <div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32</a>
                        [proposed 1st draft new charter agreement]</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>So in the context of creating a broader
                        discussion I will start with the 3 changes I
                        submitted specifically not addressed by the
                        proposed changes but rather on analysis of the
                        current proposed charter agreement as listed
                        above:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>a.  <span>Paragraph</span> <span>1</span> <span>states</span>
                        <span>"Establish</span> <span>a</span> <span>not-for-profit</span>
                        <span>(or</span> <span>similar)</span> <span>entity</span>
                        <span>within</span> <span>the</span> <span>Territory"</span>
                        <span>-</span> <span>yet</span> <span>the</span>
                        <span>word</span> <span>territory</span> <span>remains</span>
                        <span>undefined.</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span>
                        <span>territories</span> <span>overlap?</span>
                        <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>a</span>
                        <span>single</span> <span>building</span> <span>in</span>
                        <span>a</span> <span>city</span> <span>with</span>
                        <span>40</span> <span>apartments</span> <span>be</span>
                        <span>called</span> <span>a</span> <span>territory?</span></div>
                      <div><span>b. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
                        <span>3</span> <span>it</span> <span>states</span>
                        <span>"Developing,</span> <span>maintaining,</span>
                        <span>and</span> <span>adhering</span> <span>to</span>
                        <span>articles</span> <span>of</span> <span>association,</span>
                        <span>bylaws,</span> <span>or</span> <span>equivalent</span>
                        <span>governing</span> <span>documents,"</span>
                        <span>but</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span>
                        <span>no</span> <span>requirement</span> <span>to</span>
                        <span>make</span> <span>these</span> <span>documents</span>
                        <span>public.</span> <span></span> <span>ISOC</span>
                        <span>encourages</span> <span>transparency</span>
                        <span>yet</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span>
                        <span>no</span> <span>indication</span> <span>in</span>
                        <span>the</span> <span>revised</span> <span>charter</span>
                        <span>to</span> <span>require</span> <span>transparency</span>
                        <span>via</span> <span>making</span> <span>all</span>
                        <span>of</span> <span>those</span> <span>documents</span>
                        <span>publicly</span> <span>available.</span></div>
                      <div><span>c. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
                        <span>B.1.b</span> <span>the</span> <span>term</span>
                        <span>"Good</span> <span>Standing"</span> <span>remains</span>
                        <span>undefined</span></div>
                      <div><span><br>
                        </span></div>
                      <div><span>Looking forward to hearing what others
                          submitted and to have an open discussion on
                          all the proposed amendments.</span></div>
                      <div><span><br>
                        </span></div>
                      <div><span>Regards,</span></div>
                      <div><span>Hank</span></div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
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                        <p>Dear Hank</p>
                        <p>Thank you for your valuable feedback on the
                          consultation.</p>
                        <p><span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
                            Christine already expressed in a previous
                            message to this list, </span>we will now,
                          based on the feedback received so far, work on
                          the next iteration of the draft Chapter
                          Charter Agreement. Once this is ready, the
                          proposed text will then go through another,
                          final, round of community consultation. This
                          will allow all chapters that would like to
                          provide additional input to do so.</p>
                        <p><span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
                            the feedback form for the current
                            consultation did not ask contributors to
                            consent to their individual responses being
                            shared publicly, there is no plan to publish
                            individual submissions in this round. </span>We
                          regret that there was no such provision. <span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In
                            the next consultation round, there will be a
                            clear option for chapters to indicate
                            whether their feedback may be shared
                            publicly or attributed.</span></p>
                        <p
style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px"><span
                            style="font-size:16px">Although individual
                            submissions in this first round will not be
                            shared publicly, a summary of the main
                            themes raised through the consultation will
                            be shared in turn, along with an explanation
                            on how those themes were considered in the
                            next iteration of the Chapter Charter
                            Agreement revision. </span></p>
                        <p
style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Best,</p>
                        <p
style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Flávio</p>
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                          Hi, <br>
                          <br>
                          I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I
                          assume many other ChAC reps have done. <br>
                          What I have not seen is an archive of
                          submissions and the status of comments/changes
                          requested. <br>
                          Can someone point me to where that might be? <br>
                          <br>
                          Regards, <br>
                          Hank Nussbacher <br>
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            <pre cols="72">-- 
Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Presidente da ISOC Brasil
ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Presidente da ISOC Brasil
ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair</pre>
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