<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><p>Dear all,</p><p>I would like to reiterate that I do not see a clear rationale for changing the agreement with the Chapters. The fact that it has only been in force for eight years is not, in itself, a problem. On the contrary, it is generally desirable to have agreements that are durable and remain valid over time.</p><p>At this point, we have not been presented with clear arguments explaining why the agreement should be changed or what specifically needs to be changed.</p><p>The process seems to have moved directly to requesting input on possible changes without first establishing a clear understanding of their purpose and rationale. This risks becoming a process without a clearly stated justification or any evident benefits.</p><p>Is there any analysis supporting this proposal? Are there specific areas of the current agreement that have created conflicts, difficulties, or identified needs that should be considered?</p><p>Best regards,</p><p>Carlos Vera<br>ISOC Ecuador</p><p><br></p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 22 sept 2026 a las 23:55, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates (<<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg7377249092125821332"><u></u>
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<div>On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech Wagner
via Chapter-delegates wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday, I
think it worthwhile that those who submitted changes post them
here since the CHaC is not allowed to. There is no limitation on
someone who submitted a change to voluntarily post what they
submitted. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>To remind everyone of the various
documents:</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf</a>
[8 year old current charter agreement]</div>
<div><a href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf" target="_blank">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf</a></div>
<div><a href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568" target="_blank">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568</a></div>
<div><a href="https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32" target="_blank">https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32</a>
[proposed 1st draft new charter agreement]</div>
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<div>So in the context of creating a broader
discussion I will start with the 3 changes I submitted
specifically not addressed by the proposed changes but rather on
analysis of the current proposed charter agreement as listed
above:</div>
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<div>a. <span>Paragraph</span> <span>1</span>
<span>states</span> <span>"Establish</span> <span>a</span> <span>not-for-profit</span>
<span>(or</span> <span>similar)</span> <span>entity</span> <span>within</span>
<span>the</span> <span>Territory"</span> <span>-</span> <span>yet</span>
<span>the</span> <span>word</span> <span>territory</span> <span>remains</span>
<span>undefined.</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>territories</span>
<span>overlap?</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>a</span>
<span>single</span> <span>building</span> <span>in</span> <span>a</span>
<span>city</span> <span>with</span> <span>40</span> <span>apartments</span>
<span>be</span> <span>called</span> <span>a</span> <span>territory?</span></div>
<div><span>b. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
<span>3</span> <span>it</span> <span>states</span> <span>"Developing,</span>
<span>maintaining,</span> <span>and</span> <span>adhering</span>
<span>to</span> <span>articles</span> <span>of</span> <span>association,</span>
<span>bylaws,</span> <span>or</span> <span>equivalent</span> <span>governing</span>
<span>documents,"</span> <span>but</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span>
<span>no</span> <span>requirement</span> <span>to</span> <span>make</span>
<span>these</span> <span>documents</span> <span>public.</span> <span></span>
<span>ISOC</span> <span>encourages</span> <span>transparency</span>
<span>yet</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span> <span>no</span>
<span>indication</span> <span>in</span> <span>the</span> <span>revised</span>
<span>charter</span> <span>to</span> <span>require</span> <span>transparency</span>
<span>via</span> <span>making</span> <span>all</span> <span>of</span>
<span>those</span> <span>documents</span> <span>publicly</span>
<span>available.</span></div>
<div><span>c. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
<span>B.1.b</span> <span>the</span> <span>term</span> <span>"Good</span>
<span>Standing"</span> <span>remains</span> <span>undefined</span></div>
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</span></div>
<div><span>Looking forward to hearing what
others submitted and to have an open discussion on all the
proposed amendments.</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Regards,</span></div>
<div><span>Hank</span></div>
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<p>Dear Hank</p>
<p>Thank you for your valuable feedback on the consultation.</p>
<p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
Christine already expressed in a previous message to this
list, </span>we will now, based on the feedback received so
far, work on the next iteration of the draft Chapter Charter
Agreement. Once this is ready, the proposed text will then go
through another, final, round of community consultation. This
will allow all chapters that would like to provide additional
input to do so.</p>
<p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
the feedback form for the current consultation did not ask
contributors to consent to their individual responses being
shared publicly, there is no plan to publish individual
submissions in this round. </span>We regret that there was no
such provision. <span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In
the next consultation round, there will be a clear option for
chapters to indicate whether their feedback may be shared
publicly or attributed.</span></p>
<p style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-size:16px">Although individual submissions in
this first round will not be shared publicly, a summary of the
main themes raised through the consultation will be shared in
turn, along with an explanation on how those themes were
considered in the next iteration of the Chapter Charter
Agreement revision. </span></p>
<p style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Best,</p>
<p style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Flávio</p>
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Hi, <br>
<br>
I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume many other
ChAC reps have done. <br>
What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and the status
of comments/changes requested. <br>
Can someone point me to where that might be? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Hank Nussbacher <br>
ISOC-IL </blockquote>
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