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<p>Hi Carlos</p>
<div>Regarding the rationale for updating the Chapter Charter
Agreement, please refer to the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://isoc.box.com/s/j3u43egd9wx7c0wd9cvilt85zltvo65a">agenda</a>
and the recording (see link and password below) of yesterday’s
Full ChAC Call.</div>
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<div>At the bottom ("Notes" section) of the agenda there is a note
as a reminder of the rationale and context behind the revision of
the Chapter Charter Agreement, referring to the ChAC Action Plan
for 2026 (shared with the ChAC during the Q1 Full ChAC Call) and
to the Chapter DNA document (presented during the Q2 Full ChAC
Call), with appropriate links.</div>
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<div>The current consultation on a new version of the Chapter
Charter Agreement is thus a subsequent step in this process and
follows those two previous steps, that were presented and
discussed with all ChAC representatives during the Q1 and Q2 Full
ChAC Calls.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Flávio</div>
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<div>Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording: </div>
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?=3YF98F)</span></div>
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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I would like to reiterate that I do not see a clear
rationale for changing the agreement with the Chapters. The
fact that it has only been in force for eight years is not,
in itself, a problem. On the contrary, it is generally
desirable to have agreements that are durable and remain
valid over time.</p>
<p>At this point, we have not been presented with clear
arguments explaining why the agreement should be changed or
what specifically needs to be changed.</p>
<p>The process seems to have moved directly to requesting
input on possible changes without first establishing a clear
understanding of their purpose and rationale. This risks
becoming a process without a clearly stated justification or
any evident benefits.</p>
<p>Is there any analysis supporting this proposal? Are there
specific areas of the current agreement that have created
conflicts, difficulties, or identified needs that should be
considered?</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Carlos Vera<br>
ISOC Ecuador</p>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 22 sept 2026 a las
23:55, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates (<<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>)
escribió:<br>
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<div>On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech Wagner via
Chapter-delegates wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday, I think it
worthwhile that those who submitted changes post them
here since the CHaC is not allowed to. There is no
limitation on someone who submitted a change to
voluntarily post what they submitted. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To remind everyone of the various documents:</div>
<div><br>
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<div><a
href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf</a>
[8 year old current charter agreement]</div>
<div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf</a></div>
<div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568</a></div>
<div><a
href="https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32</a>
[proposed 1st draft new charter agreement]</div>
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</div>
<div>So in the context of creating a broader discussion I
will start with the 3 changes I submitted specifically
not addressed by the proposed changes but rather on
analysis of the current proposed charter agreement as
listed above:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>a. <span>Paragraph</span> <span>1</span> <span>states</span>
<span>"Establish</span> <span>a</span> <span>not-for-profit</span>
<span>(or</span> <span>similar)</span> <span>entity</span>
<span>within</span> <span>the</span> <span>Territory"</span>
<span>-</span> <span>yet</span> <span>the</span> <span>word</span>
<span>territory</span> <span>remains</span> <span>undefined.</span>
<span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>territories</span>
<span>overlap?</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>a</span>
<span>single</span> <span>building</span> <span>in</span>
<span>a</span> <span>city</span> <span>with</span> <span>40</span>
<span>apartments</span> <span>be</span> <span>called</span>
<span>a</span> <span>territory?</span></div>
<div><span>b. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
<span>3</span> <span>it</span> <span>states</span> <span>"Developing,</span>
<span>maintaining,</span> <span>and</span> <span>adhering</span>
<span>to</span> <span>articles</span> <span>of</span>
<span>association,</span> <span>bylaws,</span> <span>or</span>
<span>equivalent</span> <span>governing</span> <span>documents,"</span>
<span>but</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span> <span>no</span>
<span>requirement</span> <span>to</span> <span>make</span>
<span>these</span> <span>documents</span> <span>public.</span>
<span></span> <span>ISOC</span> <span>encourages</span>
<span>transparency</span> <span>yet</span> <span>there</span>
<span>is</span> <span>no</span> <span>indication</span>
<span>in</span> <span>the</span> <span>revised</span>
<span>charter</span> <span>to</span> <span>require</span>
<span>transparency</span> <span>via</span> <span>making</span>
<span>all</span> <span>of</span> <span>those</span> <span>documents</span>
<span>publicly</span> <span>available.</span></div>
<div><span>c. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
<span>B.1.b</span> <span>the</span> <span>term</span>
<span>"Good</span> <span>Standing"</span> <span>remains</span>
<span>undefined</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Looking forward to hearing what others
submitted and to have an open discussion on all the
proposed amendments.</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Regards,</span></div>
<div><span>Hank</span></div>
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<p>Dear Hank</p>
<p>Thank you for your valuable feedback on the
consultation.</p>
<p><span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
Christine already expressed in a previous message to
this list, </span>we will now, based on the feedback
received so far, work on the next iteration of the
draft Chapter Charter Agreement. Once this is ready,
the proposed text will then go through another, final,
round of community consultation. This will allow all
chapters that would like to provide additional input
to do so.</p>
<p><span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As
the feedback form for the current consultation did
not ask contributors to consent to their individual
responses being shared publicly, there is no plan to
publish individual submissions in this round. </span>We
regret that there was no such provision. <span
style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">In
the next consultation round, there will be a clear
option for chapters to indicate whether their
feedback may be shared publicly or attributed.</span></p>
<p style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px"><span
style="font-size:16px">Although individual
submissions in this first round will not be shared
publicly, a summary of the main themes raised
through the consultation will be shared in turn,
along with an explanation on how those themes were
considered in the next iteration of the Chapter
Charter Agreement revision. </span></p>
<p
style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Best,</p>
<p
style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none">Flávio</p>
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Hi, <br>
<br>
I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume
many other ChAC reps have done. <br>
What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and
the status of comments/changes requested. <br>
Can someone point me to where that might be? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Hank Nussbacher <br>
ISOC-IL </blockquote>
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Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Presidente da ISOC Brasil
ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair</pre>
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