<html class="apple-mail-supports-explicit-dark-mode"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Hi everyone </div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I can understand that somebody ask to maintain their name of affiliation private but can not understand what any contribution has to be private? Does it make any sense or did I miss something? </div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">So we have no chance to know what others are saying and about what? Maybe we are talking about something that already has a proposal or miss some thread or issue that other identify.. and maybe finally we find a content that nobody knows who suggests and we must accept without any rationale?</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I must insist this does not sound transparent at all to me. And of course this is not a personal claim to anybody but facts.</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Carlos Vera </div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">El sept 23, 2026, a la(s) 12:46, Flávio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org> escribió:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

  
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    <p>Hi Hank and others</p>
    <div>What has been said in yesterday's full ChAC call is that those
      who submitted contributions in the first round of the consultation
      were not asked to consent to having their input shared more
      broadly. This is why we (ChAC Steering Committee and ISOC staff)
      cannot share the detailed inputs received with everyone. </div>
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    <div>However, anyone who wishes to share on this list what they
      submitted to the first round of consultation is of course entirely
      free to do so. The ChAC SC will try to keep track of new feedback
      submitted across this channel, although this may be difficult if
      too many new ideas arise. </div>
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    <div>In any case, if there’s new feedback we encourage people to
      submit that through the next round of consultations - which will
      include additional formats (beyond the form) for those who feel
      more comfortable with contributing that way. </div>
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    <div>In addition, as also mentioned yesterday during the ChAC call,
      the next round of feedback will allow people to check a box if
      they wish to have their feedback shared more broadly. </div>
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      A final note: all ChAC representatives are also subscribed to this
      chapter-delegates list, so there’s nothing that hinders them from
      posting to this list. 
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    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Flávio</p>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech
        Wagner via Chapter-delegates wrote:</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday,
        I think it worthwhile that those who submitted changes post them
        here since the CHaC is not allowed to.  There is no limitation
        on someone who submitted a change to voluntarily post what they
        submitted. </div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To remind everyone of the various
        documents:</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf</a> 
        [8 year old current charter agreement]</div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf</a></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568" moz-do-not-send="true">https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568</a></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32" moz-do-not-send="true">https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32</a>
        [proposed 1st draft new charter agreement]</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">So in the context of creating a
        broader discussion I will start with the 3 changes I submitted
        specifically not addressed by the proposed changes but rather on
        analysis of the current proposed charter agreement as listed
        above:</div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">a.  <span>Paragraph</span> <span>1</span>
        <span>states</span> <span>"Establish</span> <span>a</span> <span>not-for-profit</span>
        <span>(or</span> <span>similar)</span> <span>entity</span> <span>within</span>
        <span>the</span> <span>Territory"</span> <span>-</span> <span>yet</span>
        <span>the</span> <span>word</span> <span>territory</span> <span>remains</span>
        <span>undefined.</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>territories</span>
        <span>overlap?</span> <span></span> <span>Can</span> <span>a</span>
        <span>single</span> <span>building</span> <span>in</span> <span>a</span>
        <span>city</span> <span>with</span> <span>40</span> <span>apartments</span>
        <span>be</span> <span>called</span> <span>a</span> <span>territory?</span></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span>b. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
        <span>3</span> <span>it</span> <span>states</span> <span>"Developing,</span>
        <span>maintaining,</span> <span>and</span> <span>adhering</span>
        <span>to</span> <span>articles</span> <span>of</span> <span>association,</span>
        <span>bylaws,</span> <span>or</span> <span>equivalent</span> <span>governing</span>
        <span>documents,"</span> <span>but</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span>
        <span>no</span> <span>requirement</span> <span>to</span> <span>make</span>
        <span>these</span> <span>documents</span> <span>public.</span>
        <span></span> <span>ISOC</span> <span>encourages</span> <span>transparency</span>
        <span>yet</span> <span>there</span> <span>is</span> <span>no</span>
        <span>indication</span> <span>in</span> <span>the</span> <span>revised</span>
        <span>charter</span> <span>to</span> <span>require</span> <span>transparency</span>
        <span>via</span> <span>making</span> <span>all</span> <span>of</span>
        <span>those</span> <span>documents</span> <span>publicly</span>
        <span>available.</span></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span>c. </span><span>In</span> <span>section</span>
        <span>B.1.b</span> <span>the</span> <span>term</span> <span>"Good</span>
        <span>Standing"</span> <span>remains</span> <span>undefined</span></div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span>Looking forward to hearing what
          others submitted and to have an open discussion on all the
          proposed amendments.</span></div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span>Regards,</span></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span>Hank</span></div>
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        <p>Dear Hank</p>
        <p>Thank you for your valuable feedback on the consultation.</p>
        <p><span style="font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">As
            Christine already expressed in a previous message to this
            list, </span>we will now, based on the feedback received so
          far, work on the next iteration of the draft Chapter Charter
          Agreement. Once this is ready, the proposed text will then go
          through another, final, round of community consultation. This
          will allow all chapters that would like to provide additional
          input to do so.</p>
        <p><span style="font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">As
            the feedback form for the current consultation did not ask
            contributors to consent to their individual responses being
            shared publicly, there is no plan to publish individual
            submissions in this round. </span>We regret that there was
          no such provision. <span style="font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">In
            the next consultation round, there will be a clear option
            for chapters to indicate whether their feedback may be
            shared publicly or attributed.</span></p>
        <p class="PDq2pG_selectionAnchorContainer" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Although individual submissions in
            this first round will not be shared publicly, a summary of
            the main themes raised through the consultation will be
            shared in turn, along with an explanation on how those
            themes were considered in the next iteration of the Chapter
            Charter Agreement revision. </span></p>
        <p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing" style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;">Best,</p>
        <p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing" style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;">Flávio</p>
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          Hi, <br>
          <br>
          I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume many other
          ChAC reps have done. <br>
          What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and the
          status of comments/changes requested. <br>
          Can someone point me to where that might be? <br>
          <br>
          Regards, <br>
          Hank Nussbacher <br>
          ISOC-IL </blockquote>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Presidente da ISOC Brasil
ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair</pre>
  

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