<html class="apple-mail-supports-explicit-dark-mode"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">I see a serious lack of transparency here.. this process through private email and no public discussion does not sound transparent to me. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I wrote to support and also to flavio and copy here:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <span style="font-family: Arial;">Sorry if I miss some previous discussion on prior</span><span style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Justification for Reviewing the Chapter Charter Agreement</span></div><blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial"><br></font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Dear Flávio,</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Thank you for your message and for the invitation to participate in the consultation on the proposed update to the Chapter Charter Agreement.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Before analyzing the content of the draft, I believe it is necessary to address a preliminary question: what is the justification for amending the existing agreement?</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">According to the information shared, the Steering Committee and Internet Society staff have been working on a proposal linked to the principles of the Chapter DNA. However, it is not clear whether the current agreement was previously evaluated, whether its positive and negative outcomes were documented, or whether the full ChAC determined that there were sufficient grounds to initiate its amendment.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">The fact that the agreement has been in place for several years, or that general principles regarding health, resilience, and impact have been defined, does not in itself demonstrate that the current instrument should be changed. Before discussing a new text, it would be important to understand which aspects of the existing agreement have worked, which have not, what specific problems the proposed changes seek to address, and whether those problems actually arise from the agreement or from its implementation, evaluation mechanisms, resource availability, or institutional support for chapters.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">I also consider it essential that any preliminary analysis recognize that chapters are independent organizations operating under very different legal frameworks, legal structures, economic realities, social conditions, and cultural contexts. A global framework that does not adequately consider this diversity could result in uniform standards that distort local realities, complicate the work of chapters, or create administrative obligations incompatible with their capacities and circumstances.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Therefore, I propose that the discussion first focus on determining whether there is an objective and shared justification for amending the agreement. If an evaluation has already been conducted or a formal decision has been adopted, I would appreciate it if the relevant documents could be shared, including the body that made that decision and the grounds considered.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">If such an evaluation does not yet exist, I believe it should be conducted before chapters are asked to validate or comment on a new contractual text. Only on the basis of a well-founded assessment and a genuine understanding of the diversity of chapters will we be able to determine whether the agreement should be amended and, if necessary, how to do so in a proportionate manner that respects their autonomy.</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Kind regards,</font></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 12px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-kerning: none;"><font face="Arial">Carlos Ver</font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 20px;">a</span></font></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">El sept 16, 2026, a la(s) 12:39, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org> escribió:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>On 16/09/2026 18:00, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume many other ChAC reps have done.</span><br><span>What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and the status of comments/changes requested.</span><br><span>Can someone point me to where that might be?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards,</span><br><span>Hank Nussbacher</span><br><span>ISOC-IL</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>We almost missed that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Among the proposed changes, there are texts that have been proposed in the pasts, and have failed in one time or another.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Furthermore, the proposed "draft feedback" is limited to preliminary populated answers, which do not necessarily cover all situations. Even more  they tend to propose that the chapters have no choice, but to accept the proposed changes.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We don't believe that some of the changes are needed. ISOC tends to bring to the chapter different requirements every few years, and we change by-laws (where applicable), register the new by-laws in court, etc. (all this costs money!).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>All proposed changes are made to follow a US-based NGO space, where they make sense, but they do not take into account the cross-cultural differences.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The fact that such changes have slipped through the cracks of our (ISOC-Bulgaria) attention is something that we would be addressing at our next Board meeting, but we see potential problems in implementing some of these requirements, if they are obligatory for each chapter.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>best,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>v/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 11:46 AM Christine Saegesser Baethge <chapter-support@isoc.org> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Please find below an important reminder from Flávio Wagner. Your</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    chapter’s input is critical! ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏  ͏ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    View in browser</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <https://email.internetsociety.org/e3t/Ctc/I7+113/d2kRm904/VX7xVf3y0gCKW4ZLvdz1sGwNmW7-75Mp5TJpvqN3JhCGH5nR3bW7Y9pgv6lZ3msW48Z5FJ5g7T1HW5lYXVn5XPKyrW2NjjVM5HQ45sVQv42S2SFm_7N2m05DDwfvrxW81gNXx5mC6hlW5mXLTw3BMh83W17DSj_6_JCkRW5pTxtf2gG5MdW8M-x_p3DtjBLW5GKzm57TTRjmN65CsFgYcJLXW2K_sSk21-qkxN5j969QjnKqtW310BT58pR6Z0W38LrMd2W0zpMW5w7DQ34HmcdsW32Xjmx5pRbpZW909-VT2XSNnGW2lN7RW8th2djW73msVs1ybnjzW7QmWPY69zMZWN8JKJPLwrNc9W5VwH_W8vccX_W6X000Z3QL86DW5MNrW86vpg7FV659RS1RtF2fW1ZRSNQ91YdpDW4S476P3lCkYHW5GVvn45PYKyKW30GV6v2vxsMTN7-RLxSCYdRdVgH4JG9gGjV4W6rgXKR9br-TFW2Ppvkn3mZKHJW5GJr4v3lw2KrW4Mjv762pZ3wzVNSgGt8slK8JW25KW6s9bFPR4Vn-76d275hyDN1Pb3nj3Rv0PW2jX9R54g-s_0f7PjF4C04></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Internet Society logo</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    /Please find below an important reminder from Flávio Wagner.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Your chapter’s input is critical!/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Dear Veni,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    We’re working with chapter leaders and Internet Society staff to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    update the Chapter Charter Agreement, the document that defines</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    our shared relationship, expectations, and commitment to an</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Internet that is for everyone.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Take Action:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Your chapter's perspective is important. This is your opportunity</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    to help shape how chapters and the Internet Society work together</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    to build a stronger, more resilient, and more impactful global</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    community.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Please coordinate with your Chapters' Advisory Council (ChAC)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    representative and submit one consolidated response for your</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    chapter by 15 September. Thank you to those chapters who have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    already submitted feedback.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>      * Review the two-page summary of the proposed changes</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        <https://email.internetsociety.org/e3t/Ctc/I7+113/d2kRm904/VX7xVf3y0gCKW4ZLvdz1sGwNmW7-75Mp5TJpvqN3JhCG-3qgz0W8wLKSR6lZ3nkN5n9kQZBQ-MYV3c1D54FDLF-W42pJxG1TF4vPW1kPxvp6yjn9hMbSRqlfjLqlW1-CfmT3bv_4sV8THSh5RwdBGM8yZVZvMSH5W7vlwR88PbcgmW9bHSHN26YfddW2GRbW_3Lf9TmV2KrJh3Vpj1bW91Hcpb6MkdPPV6TNzy2L990rW73Cg472dBwk0N6SWJrL2bxSQW96Dkt58kPgpWVQhxBB3gnfwvW2343By14PbYsW7WQLkQ2qfFY7VBPd9w7DSdMrN3VGhldK-yGYW7GLjjF2w7BDkW8H5Px03-Nx25W2v8LzG3MstyJW8x6wqT85wDY5W98vRqH1lsCK3W1trk5Y502Dxjf6wcqGg04>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>      * Submit the Feedback Form</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        <https://email.internetsociety.org/e3t/Ctc/I7+113/d2kRm904/VX7xVf3y0gCKW4ZLvdz1sGwNmW7-75Mp5TJpvqN3JhCHg3qgz0W95jsWP6lZ3m6W73MGL72xLysFW45H_0r6pcTKLW78bbzf3MTXBtW4n-2ZT34bt3QVWCcHR4zVBLbW6C3LKP4Xd2l6W4Hzgj-8r-nB3W4zqCrL4Tf8zXVw-WYy7DcsvBN8P9cbLkP42HW4YwHWm88nrQvW337JN-6kpgfPW4BYnV-264Bf1W8VDqz24Bsv5ZW5tKrv340TPMyN6gmRDdTLGpmW1x226T82l82bW7b9-hh6cBFRfVCCky04Cj6NPW7mNFlj1-n768N3KC_pd4_SpYW8Qsp8H1Rk0zgW5F0ddL4TJly2Vwn3nS8dHybCW7xZc-f7T0BggW76DFB01vq45JW3XJYD95rqK2FW3TF7gc7NhYWPW5rQTCn81SCWPW4B1bYc4W0nf9f4xTPgn04>by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        15 September to validate the proposal, identify local legal or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>        operational considerations, or share specific comments.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Please note that feedback must be submitted through the official</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    form so it can be included in the next iteration.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Thank you for helping shape the future of our chapter community.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Flávio Wagner</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Chair, Chapters' Advisory Council Steering Committee</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    /PS: This final reminder to provide feedback has been sent to all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    chapter chairs in addition to the ChAC representatives, who are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    aware of the extended deadline of 15 September. We’d like to hear</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    from all chapters to ensure broad and global input. /</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    /As a Chapter Leader, you are automatically added to the Internet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Society’s Chapter Leaders Community Group and the Chapter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Delegates e-list. Based on ISOC’s legitimate interests to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    communicate with its chapter leaders, you will remain subscribed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    for the duration of your term and will be unsubscribed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    automatically when your term ends./</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Internet Society</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    1551 Emancipation Hwy #1506, Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401-4683,<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