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    Dear Ilona,<br>
    <br>
    referring to my email below, I note with concern that I appear to
    have not received any response from you on the matters I raised.
    Having mentioned in your email dated 8 October 2024 that "<i>All
      necessary legal documents, including agreements, have been put in
      place to respect the separate nature of the two organizations." </i>,
    I am yet to have seen any of these documents which you mentioned.
    Please be so kind to share them or if this is not possible, even in
    a redacted manner, then please provide a list of the agreements to
    which you refer, including the date of the agreement, the name of
    the agreement, the signatory parties, and a brief description of
    each agreement.<br>
    <br>
    I reiterate the differentiation between a "supporting organisation"
    and a "merged organisation", which are not legally the same.
    Supporting organisations require, under Company Law, that the link
    between the Supporting Organisation and the Supported Organisation
    is formalised by a set of service agreements since the two
    organisations remain legally distinct.<br>
    <br>
    I look forward to your prompt response.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/10/2024 10:56, Olivier MJ
      Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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      Dear Ilona,<br>
      <br>
      thank you for your email dated 10 October 2024.<br>
      <br>
      I am disappointed to note that you have still not provided a
      response with the information requested in my emails appended in
      the email thread below. You will note the extract below from my
      email dated 8 October 2024: <br>
      <br>
      QUOTE: <br>
      "Responding to your note: "<i>All necessary legal documents,
        including agreements, have been put in place to respect the
        separate nature of the two organizations.</i><br>
      <br>
      All I am asking is for them to be shared. If that is not possible,
      even in a redacted manner, for whatever reason, then please
      provide a list of the agreements to which you refer, including the
      date of the agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory
      parties, and a brief description of each agreement."<br>
      <br>
      I reiterate this request and would be grateful if you could
      provide the information requested without further delay. <br>
      <br>
      I very much appreciate (and draw your attention to) the input and
      support for this information request from my fellow "Chapter
      Delegates". <br>
      <br>
      As a reminder, in U.S. company law, a "supporting organisation"
      and a "merged organisation" are not legally the same.<br>
      <br>
      I am pleased that we all appear to agree that the Internet Society
      Foundation is formally a "Section 509(a)(3) Supporting
      Organisation" under United States Non Profit Tax Law. <br>
      The information from the IRS links below provide helpful "Official
      Guidance":<br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations"
        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations</a><br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types"
        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types</a><br>
      <br>
      I look forward to your prompt response.<br>
      <br>
      Kindest regards,<br>
      <br>
      Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2024 17:04, Ilona Levine
        wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi
              Olivier,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you
              for your follow up email. I think the use of the term
              "outsourcing" in the email below might have caused some
              confusion.  You mentioned you are familiar with the
              “supporting organizations” and how they operate, but it
              might also be helpful for me to provide some additional
              background for others.<br>
              <br>
              As you know, the relationship between supporting and
              supported organizations is not a vendor or contractor
              relationship. Though the Foundation is a separate
              corporation, it is a controlled subsidiary of ISOC, not a
              third-party service provider or outside contractor.  So
              ISOC is not “outsourcing” to the Foundation but instead,
              the two entities cooperate to achieve the mission of the
              Internet Society.  In other words, as a supporting
              organization, the Foundation’s purpose is to operate for
              the benefit of, and to support, ISOC. In furtherance of
              that purpose, the Foundation conducts programs and
              activities that benefit ISOC and furthers ISOC’s mission.
              For example, the Foundation engages in communications
              activities at the direction of and to the benefit of ISOC.<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As you
              also know based on your extensive experience with
              nonprofits, the Internet Society Board develops the
              overall strategy for ISOC. Internet Society management
              then develops its action plan and in turn, works with the
              Foundation to ensure that it, as a
              supporting organization, provides the support necessary to
              achieve ISOC’s goals. The Foundation does that through its
              own action plan, which sets out objectives for all of its
              functions, including the communications function.  So the
              Board sets the strategy, Internet Society management
              creates the action plans, and the Foundation management
              allocates resources to support those plans as necessary. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">After the
              approval of the 2025 action plans, ISOC will share them
              with the community.  As discussed earlier, part of that
              will be Chris presenting to this community how the
              communications group will be tackling its work in the
              upcoming year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
              regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
                MJ Crépin-Leblond <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
                <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 8:47 AM<br>
                <b>To: </b>Ilona Levine <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:levine@isoc.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><levine@isoc.org></a>,
                Ted IETF <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
                Sally Wentworth <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
                Council Meeting of 17 September 2024<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Ilona,<br>
            <br>
            Further to our discussion two weeks ago regarding the
            definition of the relationship between the Internet Society
            and the Internet Society Foundation, in the absence of your
            response, I wish to reiterate the need for a clear
            outsourcing agreement between these entities. It is
            recognised as good business practice internationally to
            establish such agreements to delineate respective
            liabilities in the execution of these contracts.<br>
            <br>
            Responding to your note: "<i>All necessary legal documents,
              including agreements, have been put in place to respect
              the separate nature of the two organizations.</i>"<br>
            <br>
            All I am asking is for them to be shared. If that is not
            possible, even in a redacted manner, for whatever reason,
            then please provide a list of the agreements to which you
            refer, including the date of the agreement, the name of the
            agreement, the signatory parties, and a brief description of
            each agreement.<br>
            <br>
            Looking forward to your prompt response.<br>
            <br>
            Kindest regards,<br>
            <br>
            Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 24/09/2024 17:22, Olivier MJ
              Crépin-Leblond wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Ilona,<br>
              <br>
              Many thanks for your follow-up.<br>
              <br>
              The thread may not have come all through. During the
              Chapter Advisory Council call, Ted mentioned the transfer
              of some responsibilities in relation to Communications
              from the Internet Society to the Internet Society
              Foundation. My initial question to Ted was in regards to
              the outsourcing agreement as follows:<br>
              <br>
              <i>"I was previously unaware of this change. Although the
                Internet Society Foundation may have been designated by
                the Internet Society as a "supporting organisation" of
                the Internet Society, it remains a distinct and separate
                legal entity. Therefore, I assume that any "outsourcing"
                of responsibilities such as Marketing and/or
                Communications would be defined in a written "contract
                for services" between the Parties setting out
                (inter-alia) the terms, rights, and obligations of each
                Party. Could you please provide the terms for such an
                agreement and any limitations therein?<br>
                <br>
                My principal concern lies in distinguishing between
                executing the Communications Plan and drafting the
                Communications Plan. These are fundamentally different
                tasks and would undoubtedly be included in the "contract
                for services"".</i> <br>
              <br>
              The top level responsibility of the strategy of the
              Internet Society remains within the Internet Society. I
              find it surprising that an outsourcing entity would be
              able to dictate that strategy without it being agreed by
              the Internet Society itself.<br>
              The Internet Society has the opportunity to outsource the
              execution of its Communications Plan to a supporting
              organisation on the basis of terms and conditions agreed
              between the parties. This requires outsourcing
              agreement(s) in order to know where the boundaries and
              responsibilities are between the two organisations,
              including their respective liabilities in the execution of
              these agreement(s).<br>
              <br>
              For example: <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <span style="font-family:Roboto;color:#111111">Key
                Components of an Outsourcing Communications Agreement<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Introduction
                    and Definitions</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Clearly define the
                    parties involved.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Provide definitions
                    for key terms used throughout the agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="2" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Scope of
                    Services</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
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              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Detail the specific
                    services to be outsourced.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include service level
                    agreements (SLAs) to set performance standards.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="3" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Term and
                    Termination</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="3" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Specify the duration
                    of the agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Outline conditions
                    for termination by either party.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="4" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Pricing and
                    Payment Terms</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="4" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Define the pricing
                    structure and payment schedule.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include any penalties
                    for late payments or performance failures.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="5" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Confidentiality
                    and Data Protection</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="5" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Ensure compliance
                    with data protection laws.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include
                    confidentiality clauses to protect sensitive
                    information.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="6" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Intellectual
                    Property Rights</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="6" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Clarify the ownership
                    of any intellectual property created during the
                    agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="7" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Warranties and
                    Liability</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="7" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Outline the
                    warranties provided by the service provider.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Define the liability
                    limits for both parties.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="8" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Monitoring and
                    Reporting</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="8" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Establish how
                    performance will be monitored and reported.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include provisions
                    for regular review meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="9" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Dispute
                    Resolution</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="9" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Specify the process
                    for resolving disputes.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include mediation or
                    arbitration clauses if applicable.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="10" type="1">
              <li
style="color:#111111;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white">
                <strong><span style="font-family:Roboto">Exit Management</span></strong><span
                  style="font-family:Roboto">:<o:p></o:p></span></li>
            </ol>
            <ol start="10" type="1">
              <ul type="circle">
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Plan for the
                    transition of services back to the company or to
                    another provider.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
                <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#111111;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;background:white">
                  <span style="font-family:Roboto">Include provisions
                    for the transfer of data and assets.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
              </ul>
            </ol>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
              <br>
              I trust that you mentioned: "All necessary legal
              documents, including agreements, have been put in place to
              respect the separate nature of the two organizations."<br>
              Thus I would be interested in its details as explained in
              my email.<br>
              <br>
              Kindest regards,<br>
              <br>
              Olivier<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 23/09/2024 18:36, Ilona Levine
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear
                  Olivier,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                  understand that the nature of your request is to
                  assist the Chapters Advisory Council and Chris Locke
                  in preparation to his session on the communication
                  plan. The agreement in place since 2018 between the
                  Foundation and Internet Society focuses on the legal
                  obligations in line with the Foundation's role as a
                  509(a)(3) and therefore, won’t be useful for that
                  purpose.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                  regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
                    MJ Crépin-Leblond <a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
                    <b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 8:52 AM<br>
                    <b>To: </b>Ilona Levine <a
                      href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><levine@isoc.org></a>,
                    Ted IETF <a href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a><br>
                    <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a
                      href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
                    Sally Wentworth <a href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
                    <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
                    Council Meeting of 17 September 2024</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
                Ilona,<br>
                <br>
                thank you for clarifying that all necessary legal
                documents, including agreements, have been duly executed
                to respect the separate nature of the two organisations.<br>
                <br>
                I am aware of the publication of the original IETF
                Administration LLC agreements with the Internet Society,
                specifically:<br>
                <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Funding_Agreement_-_Executed_-_20201123.pdf"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement
                  (2020)</a><br>
                <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_ISOC_Funding_Amendment_Amendment_-_20201222.pdf"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement
                  Amendment (2020)</a><br>
                <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/ISOC-IETF_Amended_Funding_Agreement_-_20240103_-_Redacted_Executed.pdf"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement
                  Amended and Restated (2024)</a><br>
                <br>
                These documents are accessible on the IETF
                Administration LLC’s website at <a
                  href="https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
                  https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/</a>.<br>
                <br>
                Could you kindly confirm whether the agreements between
                the Foundation and the Internet Society are also
                publicly available? I have been unable to locate them on
                either website.<br>
                <br>
                I would appreciate it if you could provide a list of the
                agreements to which you refer, including the date of the
                agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory
                parties, and a brief description of each agreement.<br>
                <br>
                I look forward to your kind response.<br>
                <br>
                Kindest regards,<br>
                <br>
                Olivier<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <o:p></o:p></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 19:48, Ilona Levine
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi
                    Olivier, thank you for your follow up email.  You
                    noted that you are aware of the tax requirements
                    that apply to supporting organizations.  Mainly,
                    those requirements relate to supporting the mission
                    of its supported entities.  In this case, the
                    Internet Society.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As
                    part of that support, the Foundation provides grants
                    to other organizations that have missions consistent
                    with the Internet Society’s in order to fund
                    programs that further the Internet Society’s
                    purposes. The Foundation also engages in activities
                    that support Internet Society directly. For example,
                    the Foundation engages in fundraising and
                    communication activities for the benefit of the
                    Internet Society.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As
                    you also pointed out, the Foundation is a separate
                    legal entity.  It is a controlled subsidiary of
                    Internet Society.  All necessary legal documents,
                    including agreements, have been put in place to
                    respect the separate nature of the two
                    organizations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                    trust this answers your question.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                    regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white">Ilona
                          Levine,</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"> SVP,
                        General Counsel and Corporate Secretary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"><a
                          href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                          title="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                            style="color:#0563C1">levine@isoc.org</span></a>|
                      </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C"><br>
                        <span style="background:white">internetsociety.org
                          | @internetsociety</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red"><a
                          href="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ" target="_blank"
                          title="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Donate
                            today.</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Help
                          protect the Internet for everyone.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><img
                          border="0" width="68" height="34"
                          style="width:.7083in;height:.3541in"
                          id="Picture_x0020_1"
                          src="cid:part1.yFnoN696.XQ7XsnDE@gih.com"
alt="https://backchannel.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/image001.png"
                          class=""></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This
                        communication is the property of the Internet
                        Society and may contain confidential or
                        privileged information.  Unauthorized use of
                        this communication is strictly prohibited.  If
                        you have received it in error, please notify the
                        sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of
                        the communication and any attachments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
                      MJ Crépin-Leblond <a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
                      <b>Date: </b>Friday, September 20, 2024 at 11:38
                      AM<br>
                      <b>To: </b>Ted IETF <a
                        href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a>,
                      Ilona Levine <a href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><levine@isoc.org></a><br>
                      <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a
                        href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
                      Sally Wentworth <a
                        href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
                      <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters
                      Advisory Council Meeting of 17 September 2024</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
                  Ted,<br>
                  <br>
                  thank you for your follow-up on this matter. I am
                  aware of the special tax terms in relation to
                  "supporting organisations". <br>
                  <br>
                  That being said, the Internet Society Foundation is a
                  distinct and separate legal entity to the Internet
                  Society, irrespective of the relationship between
                  them. As a result, any outsourcing task undertaken by
                  one, for the other entity, would be defined in a
                  contract, whether written, verbal or otherwise. If
                  not, there is a lack of clarity and expectations about
                  the relationship, which brings potential liability and
                  risk that both entities are subjected to, in relation
                  to the other's actions. Any lawyer would tell you that
                  it is highly advisable to have a written contract, if
                  only for legal protection.<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks for letting me know that you are travelling. I
                  am copying President and CEO Sally Wentworth in case
                  you're unavailable for a length of time.<br>
                  <br>
                  Kindest regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 13:12, Ted Hardie
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Olivier,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">A supporting organization
                          is a term of art in US tax law, please see:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types"
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                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">and<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Explaining how the two
                            relate is complicated enough that there are
                            legal briefs on it; I have cc'ed the
                            Society's chief counsel in case you would
                            like that level of detail.  The summary,
                            however, is that a supporting organization
                            is a charity because it supports the
                            charitable purpose of the main
                            organization.  As a result, it can provide
                            services to the main organization under the
                            special tax rules noted above. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Note that I am traveling
                            and will generally be slow to respond for a
                            few days, but hopefully the links above will
                            get you started and Ilona can provide more
                            detailed legal information as needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Ted Hardie<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at
                          6:24<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Olivier MJ
                          Crépin-Leblond <<a
                            href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Ted, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              During this week’s Chapters Advisory
                              Council call, you mentioned that the
                              Internet Society Foundation, as a
                              "supporting organisation" of the Internet
                              Society, is managing the communications
                              department for the Internet Society. <br>
                              <br>
                              Upon seeking clarification, you explained
                              that the Internet Society Foundation
                              comprises two elements: one philanthropic
                              (grant-making) and the other as a
                              "supporting organisation" of the Internet
                              Society. "This implies that many of the
                              supporting functions for the Internet
                              Society as a whole are now part of the
                              Foundation, primarily because the
                              Foundation can provide these services to
                              the Internet Society at no cost".<br>
                              <br>
                              You further elaborated that this
                              "arrangement" allows the Internet Society
                              to allocate its budget more effectively.<br>
                              <br>
                              I was previously unaware of this change.
                              Although the Internet Society Foundation
                              may have been designated by the Internet
                              Society as a "supporting organisation" of
                              the Internet Society, it remains a
                              distinct and separate legal entity.
                              Therefore, I assume that any "outsourcing"
                              of responsibilities such as Marketing
                              and/or Communications would be defined in
                              a written "contract for services" between
                              the Parties setting out (inter-alia) the
                              terms, rights, and obligations of each
                              Party. Could you please provide the terms
                              for such an agreement and any limitations
                              therein?<br>
                              <br>
                              My principal concern lies in
                              distinguishing between executing the
                              Communications Plan and drafting the
                              Communications Plan. These are
                              fundamentally different tasks and would
                              undoubtedly be included in the "contract
                              for services". <br>
                              <br>
                              The "contract for services" (together with
                              any relevant supporting information) will
                              be helpful input for both the Chapters
                              Advisory Council and also for Chris Locke
                              and his Team (including for the current
                              "branding" presentations) in preparation
                              for the promised session from Chris Locke
                              to the Chapters Advisory Council. <br>
                              <br>
                              I look forward to your response and to
                              receiving a copy of the "contract for
                              services" agreement, together with any
                              relevant supporting information as
                              requested above.<br>
                              <br>
                              Kindest regards,<br>
                              <br>
                              Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
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