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On Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 08:31:25 PM GMT+5:30, Satish Babu via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>From the India Trivandrum Chapter, I support Olivier's request.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>With kind regards</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>satish<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597gmail_quote"><div id="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597yqt16677" class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597yqt7167928043"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 7:16 PM Judith Hellerstein via Chapter-delegates <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597gmail_quote"><div>Hi Olivier and others,<div>The Washington DC Chapter also support Olivier in this important endeavor </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Judith <br clear="none" id="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597m_2502819567993390522lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<span style="font-size:13pt;"> </span><div><span style="font-size:13pt;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:13pt;">Skype ID:JudithHellerstein</span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 8, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
Dear Ilona,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Further to our discussion two weeks ago regarding the definition of
the relationship between the Internet Society and the Internet
Society Foundation, in the absence of your response, I wish to
reiterate the need for a clear outsourcing agreement between these
entities. It is recognised as good business practice internationally
to establish such agreements to delineate respective liabilities in
the execution of these contracts.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Responding to your note: "<i>All necessary legal documents,
including agreements, have been put in place to respect the
separate nature of the two organizations.</i>"<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
All I am asking is for them to be shared. If that is not possible,
even in a redacted manner, for whatever reason, then please provide
a list of the agreements to which you refer, including the date of
the agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory parties, and
a brief description of each agreement.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Looking forward to your prompt response.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Kindest regards,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br clear="none">
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<div>On 24/09/2024 17:22, Olivier MJ
Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br clear="none">
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Dear Ilona,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Many thanks for your follow-up.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The thread may not have come all through. During the Chapter
Advisory Council call, Ted mentioned the transfer of some
responsibilities in relation to Communications from the Internet
Society to the Internet Society Foundation. My initial question to
Ted was in regards to the outsourcing agreement as follows:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<i>"I was previously unaware of this change. Although the Internet
Society Foundation may have been designated by the Internet
Society as a "supporting organisation" of the Internet Society,
it remains a distinct and separate legal entity. Therefore, I
assume that any "outsourcing" of responsibilities such as
Marketing and/or Communications would be defined in a written
"contract for services" between the Parties setting out
(inter-alia) the terms, rights, and obligations of each Party.
Could you please provide the terms for such an agreement and any
limitations therein?<br clear="none">
</i> <i><br clear="none">
My principal concern lies in distinguishing between executing
the Communications Plan and drafting the Communications Plan.
These are fundamentally different tasks and would undoubtedly be
included in the "contract for services"".</i> <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The top level responsibility of the strategy of the Internet
Society remains within the Internet Society. I find it surprising
that an outsourcing entity would be able to dictate that strategy
without it being agreed by the Internet Society itself.<br clear="none">
The Internet Society has the opportunity to outsource the
execution of its Communications Plan to a supporting organisation
on the basis of terms and conditions agreed between the parties.
This requires outsourcing agreement(s) in order to know where the
boundaries and responsibilities are between the two organisations,
including their respective liabilities in the execution of these
agreement(s).<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
For example: <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<h3 style="padding: 0px; margin: 12px 0px 0px; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); font-family: -apple-system, Roboto, SegoeUI, Helvetica, Meiryo, Unicode sans-serif; font-style: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Key
Components of an Outsourcing Communications Agreement</h3>
<ol style="margin: 12px 0px 0px; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); font-family: -apple-system, Roboto, SegoeUI, Helvetica, Meiryo, Unicode sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Introduction
and Definitions</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Clearly define the parties involved.</li><li>Provide definitions for key terms used throughout the
agreement.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Scope
of Services</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Detail the specific services to be outsourced.</li><li>Include service level agreements (SLAs) to set
performance standards.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Term
and Termination</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Specify the duration of the agreement.</li><li>Outline conditions for termination by either party.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Pricing
and Payment Terms</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Define the pricing structure and payment schedule.</li><li>Include any penalties for late payments or performance
failures.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Confidentiality
and Data Protection</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Ensure compliance with data protection laws.</li><li>Include confidentiality clauses to protect sensitive
information.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Intellectual
Property Rights</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Clarify the ownership of any intellectual property
created during the agreement.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Warranties
and Liability</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Outline the warranties provided by the service provider.</li><li>Define the liability limits for both parties.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Monitoring
and Reporting</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Establish how performance will be monitored and
reported.</li><li>Include provisions for regular review meetings.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Dispute
Resolution</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Specify the process for resolving disputes.</li><li>Include mediation or arbitration clauses if applicable.</li></ul>
</li><li>
<p style="padding:0px;margin:0px;display:inline;"><strong>Exit
Management</strong>:</p>
<ul style="margin: 12px 0px 0px;"><li>Plan for the transition of services back to the company
or to another provider.</li><li>Include provisions for the transfer of data and assets.</li></ul>
</li></ol>
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I trust that you mentioned: "All necessary legal documents,
including agreements, have been put in place to respect the
separate nature of the two organizations."<br clear="none">
Thus I would be interested in its details as explained in my
email.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Kindest regards,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Olivier<br clear="none">
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<div>On 23/09/2024 18:36, Ilona Levine
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Dear
Olivier,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">I
understand that the nature of your request is to assist
the Chapters Advisory Council and Chris Locke in
preparation to his session on the communication plan. The
agreement in place since 2018 between the Foundation and
Internet Society focuses on the legal obligations in line
with the Foundation's role as a 509(a)(3) and therefore,
won’t be useful for that purpose.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Best
regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Ilona<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Olivier
MJ Crépin-Leblond <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><ocl@gih.com></a><br clear="none">
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 8:52 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>Ilona Levine <a shape="rect" href="mailto:levine@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><levine@isoc.org></a>,
Ted IETF <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a><br clear="none">
<b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
Sally Wentworth <a shape="rect" href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
Council Meeting of 17 September 2024<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Dear Ilona,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
thank you for clarifying that all necessary legal documents,
including agreements, have been duly executed to respect the
separate nature of the two organisations.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I am aware of the publication of the original IETF
Administration LLC agreements with the Internet Society,
specifically:<br clear="none">
<a shape="rect" href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Funding_Agreement_-_Executed_-_20201123.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement (2020)</a><br clear="none">
<a shape="rect" href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_ISOC_Funding_Amendment_Amendment_-_20201222.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement
Amendment (2020)</a><br clear="none">
<a shape="rect" href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/ISOC-IETF_Amended_Funding_Agreement_-_20240103_-_Redacted_Executed.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement Amended
and Restated (2024)</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
These documents are accessible on the IETF Administration
LLC’s website at <a shape="rect" href="https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/</a>.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Could you kindly confirm whether the agreements between the
Foundation and the Internet Society are also publicly
available? I have been unable to locate them on either
website.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I would appreciate it if you could provide a list of the
agreements to which you refer, including the date of the
agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory parties,
and a brief description of each agreement.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I look forward to your kind response.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Kindest regards,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Olivier<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 19:48, Ilona Levine
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Hi
Olivier, thank you for your follow up email. You noted
that you are aware of the tax requirements that apply to
supporting organizations. Mainly, those requirements
relate to supporting the mission of its supported
entities. In this case, the Internet Society. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">As part
of that support, the Foundation provides grants to other
organizations that have missions consistent with the
Internet Society’s in order to fund programs that
further the Internet Society’s purposes. The Foundation
also engages in activities that support Internet Society
directly. For example, the Foundation engages in
fundraising and communication activities for the benefit
of the Internet Society.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">As you
also pointed out, the Foundation is a separate legal
entity. It is a controlled subsidiary of Internet
Society. All necessary legal documents, including
agreements, have been put in place to respect the
separate nature of the two organizations.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">I trust
this answers your question.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Best
regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Ilona</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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General Counsel and Corporate Secretary</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Olivier
MJ Crépin-Leblond <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><ocl@gih.com></a><br clear="none">
<b>Date: </b>Friday, September 20, 2024 at 11:38 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>Ted IETF <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a>,
Ilona Levine <a shape="rect" href="mailto:levine@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><levine@isoc.org></a><br clear="none">
<b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
Sally Wentworth <a shape="rect" href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
Council Meeting of 17 September 2024</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Dear Ted,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
thank you for your follow-up on this matter. I am aware of
the special tax terms in relation to "supporting
organisations". <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
That being said, the Internet Society Foundation is a
distinct and separate legal entity to the Internet
Society, irrespective of the relationship between them. As
a result, any outsourcing task undertaken by one, for the
other entity, would be defined in a contract, whether
written, verbal or otherwise. If not, there is a lack of
clarity and expectations about the relationship, which
brings potential liability and risk that both entities are
subjected to, in relation to the other's actions. Any
lawyer would tell you that it is highly advisable to have
a written contract, if only for legal protection.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Thanks for letting me know that you are travelling. I am
copying President and CEO Sally Wentworth in case you're
unavailable for a length of time.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Kindest regards,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Olivier<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 13:12, Ted Hardie
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Hi Olivier,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">A supporting organization is a
term of art in US tax law, please see:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Explaining how the two relate
is complicated enough that there are legal
briefs on it; I have cc'ed the Society's chief
counsel in case you would like that level of
detail. The summary, however, is that a
supporting organization is a charity because it
supports the charitable purpose of the main
organization. As a result, it can provide
services to the main organization under the
special tax rules noted above. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Note that I am traveling and
will generally be slow to respond for a few
days, but hopefully the links above will get you
started and Ilona can provide more detailed
legal information as needed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">Ted Hardie<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydpc8ac0cd6yiv1851778597MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:24<span style="font-family:sans-serif;"> </span>AM
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>>
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During this week’s Chapters Advisory Council
call, you mentioned that the Internet Society
Foundation, as a "supporting organisation" of
the Internet Society, is managing the
communications department for the Internet
Society. <br clear="none">
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Upon seeking clarification, you explained that
the Internet Society Foundation comprises two
elements: one philanthropic (grant-making) and
the other as a "supporting organisation" of
the Internet Society. "This implies that many
of the supporting functions for the Internet
Society as a whole are now part of the
Foundation, primarily because the Foundation
can provide these services to the Internet
Society at no cost".<br clear="none">
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You further elaborated that this "arrangement"
allows the Internet Society to allocate its
budget more effectively.<br clear="none">
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I was previously unaware of this change.
Although the Internet Society Foundation may
have been designated by the Internet Society
as a "supporting organisation" of the Internet
Society, it remains a distinct and separate
legal entity. Therefore, I assume that any
"outsourcing" of responsibilities such as
Marketing and/or Communications would be
defined in a written "contract for services"
between the Parties setting out (inter-alia)
the terms, rights, and obligations of each
Party. Could you please provide the terms for
such an agreement and any limitations therein?<br clear="none">
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My principal concern lies in distinguishing
between executing the Communications Plan and
drafting the Communications Plan. These are
fundamentally different tasks and would
undoubtedly be included in the "contract for
services". <br clear="none">
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The "contract for services" (together with any
relevant supporting information) will be
helpful input for both the Chapters Advisory
Council and also for Chris Locke and his Team
(including for the current "branding"
presentations) in preparation for the promised
session from Chris Locke to the Chapters
Advisory Council. <br clear="none">
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I look forward to your response and to
receiving a copy of the "contract for
services" agreement, together with any
relevant supporting information as requested
above.<br clear="none">
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Kindest regards,<br clear="none">
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Olivier<u></u><u></u></p>
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