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    Dear Ilona,<br>
    <br>
    Further to our discussion two weeks ago regarding the definition of
    the relationship between the Internet Society and the Internet
    Society Foundation, in the absence of your response, I wish to
    reiterate the need for a clear outsourcing agreement between these
    entities. It is recognised as good business practice internationally
    to establish such agreements to delineate respective liabilities in
    the execution of these contracts.<br>
    <br>
    Responding to your note: "<i>All necessary legal documents,
      including agreements, have been put in place to respect the
      separate nature of the two organizations.</i>"<br>
    <br>
    All I am asking is for them to be shared. If that is not possible,
    even in a redacted manner, for whatever reason, then please provide
    a list of the agreements to which you refer, including the date of
    the agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory parties, and
    a brief description of each agreement.<br>
    <br>
    Looking forward to your prompt response.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/09/2024 17:22, Olivier MJ
      Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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      Dear Ilona,<br>
      <br>
      Many thanks for your follow-up.<br>
      <br>
      The thread may not have come all through. During the Chapter
      Advisory Council call, Ted mentioned the transfer of some
      responsibilities in relation to Communications from the Internet
      Society to the Internet Society Foundation. My initial question to
      Ted was in regards to the outsourcing agreement as follows:<br>
      <br>
      <i>"I was previously unaware of this change. Although the Internet
        Society Foundation may have been designated by the Internet
        Society as a "supporting organisation" of the Internet Society,
        it remains a distinct and separate legal entity. Therefore, I
        assume that any "outsourcing" of responsibilities such as
        Marketing and/or Communications would be defined in a written
        "contract for services" between the Parties setting out
        (inter-alia) the terms, rights, and obligations of each Party.
        Could you please provide the terms for such an agreement and any
        limitations therein?<br>
      </i> <i><br>
        My principal concern lies in distinguishing between executing
        the Communications Plan and drafting the Communications Plan.
        These are fundamentally different tasks and would undoubtedly be
        included in the "contract for services"".</i> <br>
      <br>
      The top level responsibility of the strategy of the Internet
      Society remains within the Internet Society. I find it surprising
      that an outsourcing entity would be able to dictate that strategy
      without it being agreed by the Internet Society itself.<br>
      The Internet Society has the opportunity to outsource the
      execution of its Communications Plan to a supporting organisation
      on the basis of terms and conditions agreed between the parties.
      This requires outsourcing agreement(s) in order to know where the
      boundaries and responsibilities are between the two organisations,
      including their respective liabilities in the execution of these
      agreement(s).<br>
      <br>
      For example: <br>
      <br>
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        Components of an Outsourcing Communications Agreement</h3>
      <ol
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        <li>
          <p
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              and Definitions</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Clearly define the parties involved.</li>
            <li>Provide definitions for key terms used throughout the
              agreement.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              of Services</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Detail the specific services to be outsourced.</li>
            <li>Include service level agreements (SLAs) to set
              performance standards.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              and Termination</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Specify the duration of the agreement.</li>
            <li>Outline conditions for termination by either party.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              and Payment Terms</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Define the pricing structure and payment schedule.</li>
            <li>Include any penalties for late payments or performance
              failures.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              and Data Protection</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Ensure compliance with data protection laws.</li>
            <li>Include confidentiality clauses to protect sensitive
              information.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              Property Rights</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Clarify the ownership of any intellectual property
              created during the agreement.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              and Liability</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Outline the warranties provided by the service provider.</li>
            <li>Define the liability limits for both parties.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              and Reporting</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Establish how performance will be monitored and
              reported.</li>
            <li>Include provisions for regular review meetings.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              Resolution</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Specify the process for resolving disputes.</li>
            <li>Include mediation or arbitration clauses if applicable.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p
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              Management</strong>:</p>
          <ul
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            <li>Plan for the transition of services back to the company
              or to another provider.</li>
            <li>Include provisions for the transfer of data and assets.</li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ol>
      <br>
      <br>
      I trust that you mentioned: "All necessary legal documents,
      including agreements, have been put in place to respect the
      separate nature of the two organizations."<br>
      Thus I would be interested in its details as explained in my
      email.<br>
      <br>
      Kindest regards,<br>
      <br>
      Olivier<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/09/2024 18:36, Ilona Levine
        wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear
              Olivier,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
              understand that the nature of your request is to assist
              the Chapters Advisory Council and Chris Locke in
              preparation to his session on the communication plan. The
              agreement in place since 2018 between the Foundation and
              Internet Society focuses on the legal obligations in line
              with the Foundation's role as a 509(a)(3) and therefore,
              won’t be useful for that purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
              regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
                MJ Crépin-Leblond <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
                <b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 8:52 AM<br>
                <b>To: </b>Ilona Levine <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:levine@isoc.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><levine@isoc.org></a>,
                Ted IETF <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
                Sally Wentworth <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
                Council Meeting of 17 September 2024<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Ilona,<br>
            <br>
            thank you for clarifying that all necessary legal documents,
            including agreements, have been duly executed to respect the
            separate nature of the two organisations.<br>
            <br>
            I am aware of the publication of the original IETF
            Administration LLC agreements with the Internet Society,
            specifically:<br>
            <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Funding_Agreement_-_Executed_-_20201123.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement (2020)</a><br>
            <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_ISOC_Funding_Amendment_Amendment_-_20201222.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement
              Amendment (2020)</a><br>
            <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/ISOC-IETF_Amended_Funding_Agreement_-_20240103_-_Redacted_Executed.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">IETF-ISOC Funding Agreement Amended
              and Restated (2024)</a><br>
            <br>
            These documents are accessible on the IETF Administration
            LLC’s website at <a
              href="https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
              https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/</a>.<br>
            <br>
            Could you kindly confirm whether the agreements between the
            Foundation and the Internet Society are also publicly
            available? I have been unable to locate them on either
            website.<br>
            <br>
            I would appreciate it if you could provide a list of the
            agreements to which you refer, including the date of the
            agreement, the name of the agreement, the signatory parties,
            and a brief description of each agreement.<br>
            <br>
            I look forward to your kind response.<br>
            <br>
            Kindest regards,<br>
            <br>
            Olivier<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 19:48, Ilona Levine
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi
                Olivier, thank you for your follow up email.  You noted
                that you are aware of the tax requirements that apply to
                supporting organizations.  Mainly, those requirements
                relate to supporting the mission of its supported
                entities.  In this case, the Internet Society.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As part
                of that support, the Foundation provides grants to other
                organizations that have missions consistent with the
                Internet Society’s in order to fund programs that
                further the Internet Society’s purposes. The Foundation
                also engages in activities that support Internet Society
                directly. For example, the Foundation engages in
                fundraising and communication activities for the benefit
                of the Internet Society.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As you
                also pointed out, the Foundation is a separate legal
                entity.  It is a controlled subsidiary of Internet
                Society.  All necessary legal documents, including
                agreements, have been put in place to respect the
                separate nature of the two organizations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I trust
                this answers your question.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white">Ilona
                      Levine,</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"> SVP,
                    General Counsel and Corporate Secretary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"><a
                      href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                      title="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">levine@isoc.org</span></a>|
                  </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C"><br>
                    <span style="background:white">internetsociety.org |
                      @internetsociety</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red"><a
                      href="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ" target="_blank"
                      title="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Donate
                        today.</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Help
                      protect the Internet for everyone.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><img
                      border="0" width="68" height="34"
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alt="https://backchannel.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/image001.png"
                      class=""></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This
                    communication is the property of the Internet
                    Society and may contain confidential or privileged
                    information.  Unauthorized use of this communication
                    is strictly prohibited.  If you have received it in
                    error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and
                    destroy all copies of the communication and any
                    attachments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
                  MJ Crépin-Leblond <a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Friday, September 20, 2024 at 11:38 AM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>Ted IETF <a
                    href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a>,
                  Ilona Levine <a href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><levine@isoc.org></a><br>
                  <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <a
                    href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>,
                  Sally Wentworth <a href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
                  Council Meeting of 17 September 2024</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Ted,<br>
              <br>
              thank you for your follow-up on this matter. I am aware of
              the special tax terms in relation to "supporting
              organisations". <br>
              <br>
              That being said, the Internet Society Foundation is a
              distinct and separate legal entity to the Internet
              Society, irrespective of the relationship between them. As
              a result, any outsourcing task undertaken by one, for the
              other entity, would be defined in a contract, whether
              written, verbal or otherwise. If not, there is a lack of
              clarity and expectations about the relationship, which
              brings potential liability and risk that both entities are
              subjected to, in relation to the other's actions. Any
              lawyer would tell you that it is highly advisable to have
              a written contract, if only for legal protection.<br>
              <br>
              Thanks for letting me know that you are travelling. I am
              copying President and CEO Sally Wentworth in case you're
              unavailable for a length of time.<br>
              <br>
              Kindest regards,<br>
              <br>
              Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 13:12, Ted Hardie
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Olivier,<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">A supporting organization is a
                      term of art in US tax law, please see:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">and<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Explaining how the two relate
                        is complicated enough that there are legal
                        briefs on it; I have cc'ed the Society's chief
                        counsel in case you would like that level of
                        detail.  The summary, however, is that a
                        supporting organization is a charity because it
                        supports the charitable purpose of the main
                        organization.  As a result, it can provide
                        services to the main organization under the
                        special tax rules noted above. <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Note that I am traveling and
                        will generally be slow to respond for a few
                        days, but hopefully the links above will get you
                        started and Ilona can provide more detailed
                        legal information as needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Ted Hardie<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:24<span
                        style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM
                      Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a
                        href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ocl@gih.com</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Ted, <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                          During this week’s Chapters Advisory Council
                          call, you mentioned that the Internet Society
                          Foundation, as a "supporting organisation" of
                          the Internet Society, is managing the
                          communications department for the Internet
                          Society. <br>
                          <br>
                          Upon seeking clarification, you explained that
                          the Internet Society Foundation comprises two
                          elements: one philanthropic (grant-making) and
                          the other as a "supporting organisation" of
                          the Internet Society. "This implies that many
                          of the supporting functions for the Internet
                          Society as a whole are now part of the
                          Foundation, primarily because the Foundation
                          can provide these services to the Internet
                          Society at no cost".<br>
                          <br>
                          You further elaborated that this "arrangement"
                          allows the Internet Society to allocate its
                          budget more effectively.<br>
                          <br>
                          I was previously unaware of this change.
                          Although the Internet Society Foundation may
                          have been designated by the Internet Society
                          as a "supporting organisation" of the Internet
                          Society, it remains a distinct and separate
                          legal entity. Therefore, I assume that any
                          "outsourcing" of responsibilities such as
                          Marketing and/or Communications would be
                          defined in a written "contract for services"
                          between the Parties setting out (inter-alia)
                          the terms, rights, and obligations of each
                          Party. Could you please provide the terms for
                          such an agreement and any limitations therein?<br>
                          <br>
                          My principal concern lies in distinguishing
                          between executing the Communications Plan and
                          drafting the Communications Plan. These are
                          fundamentally different tasks and would
                          undoubtedly be included in the "contract for
                          services". <br>
                          <br>
                          The "contract for services" (together with any
                          relevant supporting information) will be
                          helpful input for both the Chapters Advisory
                          Council and also for Chris Locke and his Team
                          (including for the current "branding"
                          presentations) in preparation for the promised
                          session from Chris Locke to the Chapters
                          Advisory Council. <br>
                          <br>
                          I look forward to your response and to
                          receiving a copy of the "contract for
                          services" agreement, together with any
                          relevant supporting information as requested
                          above.<br>
                          <br>
                          Kindest regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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