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    Dear Ilona,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for clarifying that all necessary legal documents,
    including agreements, have been duly executed to respect the
    separate nature of the two organisations.<br>
    <br>
    I am aware of the publication of the original IETF Administration
    LLC agreements with the Internet Society, specifically:<br>
    <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Funding_Agreement_-_Executed_-_20201123.pdf">IETF-ISOC
      Funding Agreement (2020)</a><br>
    <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_ISOC_Funding_Amendment_Amendment_-_20201222.pdf">IETF-ISOC
      Funding Agreement Amendment (2020)</a><br>
    <a
href="https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/ISOC-IETF_Amended_Funding_Agreement_-_20240103_-_Redacted_Executed.pdf">IETF-ISOC
      Funding Agreement Amended and Restated (2024)</a><br>
    <br>
    These documents are accessible on the IETF Administration LLC’s
    website at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
      href="https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/">https://www.ietf.org/administration/overview/</a>.<br>
    <br>
    Could you kindly confirm whether the agreements between the
    Foundation and the Internet Society are also publicly available? I
    have been unable to locate them on either website.<br>
    <br>
    I would appreciate it if you could provide a list of the agreements
    to which you refer, including the date of the agreement, the name of
    the agreement, the signatory parties, and a brief description of
    each agreement.<br>
    <br>
    I look forward to your kind response.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/09/2024 19:48, Ilona Levine
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Olivier,
            thank you for your follow up email.  You noted that you are
            aware of the tax requirements that apply to supporting
            organizations.  Mainly, those requirements relate to
            supporting the mission of its supported entities.  In this
            case, the Internet Society.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As part of
            that support, the Foundation provides grants to other
            organizations that have missions consistent with the
            Internet Society’s in order to fund programs that further
            the Internet Society’s purposes. The Foundation also engages
            in activities that support Internet Society directly. For
            example, the Foundation engages in fundraising and
            communication activities for the benefit of the Internet
            Society.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As you also
            pointed out, the Foundation is a separate legal entity.  It
            is a controlled subsidiary of Internet Society.  All
            necessary legal documents, including agreements, have been
            put in place to respect the separate nature of the two
            organizations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I trust this
            answers your question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ilona<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white">Ilona
                  Levine,</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"> SVP,
                General Counsel and Corporate Secretary</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C;background:white"><a
                  href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"
                  title="mailto:levine@isoc.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                    style="color:#0563C1">levine@isoc.org</span></a>|
              </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hind Regular";color:#0C1C2C"><br>
                <span style="background:white">internetsociety.org |
                  @internetsociety</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red"><a
                  href="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ" target="_blank"
                  title="https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Donate
                    today.</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:red">Help
                  protect the Internet for everyone.</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                Unauthorized use of this communication is strictly
                prohibited.  If you have received it in error, please
                notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
              </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Olivier
              MJ Crépin-Leblond <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Friday, September 20, 2024 at 11:38 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b>Ted IETF <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com"><ted.ietf@gmail.com></a>, Ilona
              Levine <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:levine@isoc.org"><levine@isoc.org></a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>, Sally Wentworth
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wentworth@isoc.org"><wentworth@isoc.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: Follow-up on Chapters Advisory
              Council Meeting of 17 September 2024<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Ted,<br>
          <br>
          thank you for your follow-up on this matter. I am aware of the
          special tax terms in relation to "supporting organisations".
          <br>
          <br>
          That being said, the Internet Society Foundation is a distinct
          and separate legal entity to the Internet Society,
          irrespective of the relationship between them. As a result,
          any outsourcing task undertaken by one, for the other entity,
          would be defined in a contract, whether written, verbal or
          otherwise. If not, there is a lack of clarity and expectations
          about the relationship, which brings potential liability and
          risk that both entities are subjected to, in relation to the
          other's actions. Any lawyer would tell you that it is highly
          advisable to have a written contract, if only for legal
          protection.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks for letting me know that you are travelling. I am
          copying President and CEO Sally Wentworth in case you're
          unavailable for a length of time.<br>
          <br>
          Kindest regards,<br>
          <br>
          Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2024 13:12, Ted Hardie wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Olivier,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">A supporting organization is a term
                  of art in US tax law, please see:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">and<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/section-509a3-supporting-organizations</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Explaining how the two relate is
                    complicated enough that there are legal briefs on
                    it; I have cc'ed the Society's chief counsel in case
                    you would like that level of detail.  The summary,
                    however, is that a supporting organization is a
                    charity because it supports the charitable purpose
                    of the main organization.  As a result, it can
                    provide services to the main organization under the
                    special tax rules noted above.
                    <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Note that I am traveling and will
                    generally be slow to respond for a few days, but
                    hopefully the links above will get you started and
                    Ilona can provide more detailed legal information as
                    needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Ted Hardie<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:24<span
                    style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM
                  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a
                    href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ocl@gih.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Ted, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                      During this week’s Chapters Advisory Council call,
                      you mentioned that the Internet Society
                      Foundation, as a "supporting organisation" of the
                      Internet Society, is managing the communications
                      department for the Internet Society.
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Upon seeking clarification, you explained that the
                      Internet Society Foundation comprises two
                      elements: one philanthropic (grant-making) and the
                      other as a "supporting organisation" of the
                      Internet Society. "This implies that many of the
                      supporting functions for the Internet Society as a
                      whole are now part of the Foundation, primarily
                      because the Foundation can provide these services
                      to the Internet Society at no cost".<br>
                      <br>
                      You further elaborated that this "arrangement"
                      allows the Internet Society to allocate its budget
                      more effectively.<br>
                      <br>
                      I was previously unaware of this change. Although
                      the Internet Society Foundation may have been
                      designated by the Internet Society as a
                      "supporting organisation" of the Internet Society,
                      it remains a distinct and separate legal entity.
                      Therefore, I assume that any "outsourcing" of
                      responsibilities such as Marketing and/or
                      Communications would be defined in a written
                      "contract for services" between the Parties
                      setting out (inter-alia) the terms, rights, and
                      obligations of each Party. Could you please
                      provide the terms for such an agreement and any
                      limitations therein?<br>
                      <br>
                      My principal concern lies in distinguishing
                      between executing the Communications Plan and
                      drafting the Communications Plan. These are
                      fundamentally different tasks and would
                      undoubtedly be included in the "contract for
                      services".
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      The "contract for services" (together with any
                      relevant supporting information) will be helpful
                      input for both the Chapters Advisory Council and
                      also for Chris Locke and his Team (including for
                      the current "branding" presentations) in
                      preparation for the promised session from Chris
                      Locke to the Chapters Advisory Council. <br>
                      <br>
                      I look forward to your response and to receiving a
                      copy of the "contract for services" agreement,
                      together with any relevant supporting information
                      as requested above.<br>
                      <br>
                      Kindest regards,<br>
                      <br>
                      Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
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