<div dir="auto">I too wondered where is the usual parsed response to Oliver's very thoughtful and clear analysis?...Instead of the typical fancy intellectual explanations?..Yet we are treated to a missive stating the answer is for the chapters to continue along the path of asking the same people and process (beyond the net) etc.etc who can not see the value proposition that jolly's service brings towards us all....which we already knew was available so that solution is exactly where this started..how's that for progress?<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I wonder how many people are non volunteers of the society and foundation ?how much are the salaries? Who makes the most? Maybe there is someway we can find what's needed to continue. Services that benefits the chapters, instead of being told what is not feasible by some non volunteer anonymous staff members... </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Would also be interested in how there is 5 million dollars for something and someone's yet we don't have 63000dollars for a service that benefits all? Who decides the budget?..Is the decision surrounding budget voted on by the chapters?.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Doug Frazier</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 14:25 Frederic Taes via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="FR-BE" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_7384117996484921008WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Ted,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">In recent discussion about Live stream service, you highlighted the necessity of a positive business case: even if we are a not-for-profit organization, we need to stay financially viable and not throw money through windows. It’s a fair point. I was really impressed by the figures and extended analysis performed by Olivier-Crépin Leblond: this should be used to challenge the internal staff decision. My proposal would be to give a yearly envelope for common services to chapters, and to let the ChAC to determine how this money should be used for those common services, like live streaming service and archiving, global license for video meetings,… That would be economically the best.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Livestream discussion is about 64K, but what about millions we burn?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From Internet Society strategic plan, MANRS is/was a key window to promote Internet Society and to convert yearly 5 MANRS members to become ISOC organizational members, bringing money to us. This has been stopped now: Global Cyber Alliance took all the work and knowledge of ISOC, they completely removed ISOC visibility from <a href="http://www.manrs.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">www.manrs.org</a>. While some organizations would have requested big amount of money for this transfer, it’s the opposite that happened : ISOC not received but gave 5,250,000 USD to them (<a href="https://www.isocfoundation.org/project/manrs-initiative-succession/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.isocfoundation.org/project/manrs-initiative-succession/</a>). What’s the rationale of the business case?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Frederic.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div>
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