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<div dir="auto">Dear Olivier,<br />
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As you know, trustees' voting is not disclosed unless it is a resolution or happens in public. Asking for them to disclose their posture on an issue puts them in danger to be accused of releasing either the discussion or other things the rest of the board (meaning not the Chapter elected members) are not willing to disclose due to their personal or corporate culture. At the end, there is only a third of Chapter elected members votes which are easily out-numbered by other cultural beliefs. Even if there is an obligation of every trustee to act in favor of ISOC as a whole, simple human approach to team playing may prevail.<br />
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I would be very surprised if IETF or Organizational BOT Members of the board come and establish a dialogue in a mailing list with other Internet Society members. <br />
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Best Regards,<br />
Luis</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 15 Sep 2024 6:27 -0600, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>, wrote:<br />
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Thank you for informing us that there were no objections. Based on your communication, it appears that there is unanimous approval.<br />
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I am quite surprised by this outcome, as some Board members had previously expressed concerns, and I was not aware that their positions had changed. I kindly request that the Board members on this mailing list provide an explanation for their change in stance and the rationale behind the decision to cease funding a vital Chapter and communication resource.<br />
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Kind regards,<br />
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Olivier<br />
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If I understand your question correctly, you are asking if this was a rough consensus with some dissent? There were no objections.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 1:33 PM Eduardo Diaz <<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div>
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<div><font size="4" face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Can you indicate how many Board members needed to be at consensus?</span><br /></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 7:37 AM Ted Hardie via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div>
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<div style="font-size:small">Hi Olivier,</div>
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<div style="font-size:small">The board has an active mailing list and informal meetings once a month (though August's meeting did not occur this year because of low availability). The discussion took place mostly on the mailing list, along with trustees' edits of a proposal using online tools. Because this response did not require a resolution, confirmation of agreement was assessed on the list and confirmed at the September informal meeting, earlier this week. None of those methods generate minutes in the formal sense, but I can confirm that there was consensus for the response.<br /></div>
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<div style="font-size:small">regards,</div>
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<div aria-label="Sent by Copilot: Certainly! Here is a more formal and legally phrased version: --- **Dear Ted,** I acknowledge receipt of your response, which I have reviewed with interest. The Chapter Advisory Council submitted its request on 17 July 2024. The Board, through its Chair, issued its response on 13 September 2024. Upon reviewing the list of ISOC Board Meetings available at [Internet Society Board of Trustees Meetings](https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/meetings/), I have not identified any meetings of the ISOC Board of Trustees occurring between these dates. Given that this decision was made by the Board, I kindly request the following: - The minutes of the meeting during which the Board decided not to reinstate the ISOC.LIVE video production, editing, and archiving services. Yours sincerely, Olivier Crépin-Leblond --- Would you like any further adjustments?">
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<div>Dear Ted,<br />
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I acknowledge receipt of your response, which I have reviewed with interest.
<p>The Chapter Advisory Council submitted its formal request on 17 July 2024. The Board, through its Chair, issued its, I assume, formal response on 13 September 2024.</p>
<p>Upon reviewing the list of ISOC Board Meetings available at <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/meetings/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Internet Society Board of Trustees Meetings</a>, I have not identified any meetings of the ISOC Board of Trustees occurring between these dates.</p>
<p>Given that this decision was made by the Board, I kindly request the following:</p>
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<li>The minutes of the meeting during which the Board decided not to reinstate the ISOC.LIVE video production, editing, and archiving services.</li>
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<p>Warmest regards,</p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">One of the items in your recent advice to the board was a request that the "ISOC funding for the ISOC.LIVE video production, editing, and archiving services should be reinstated, as well as ISOC.LIVE should be financially supported by ISOC on an ongoing basis." </span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The board's role here is to set the direction for the organization by establishing strategic goals; the details of the communication plan are a part of the staff execution of those goals. During the budget analysis of 2023, the communications team analyzed the effectiveness of specific streaming approaches and found that community engagement was driven primarily by on-demand viewing. This matches a broader shift common to mainstream programming. As a result of this analysis, the communications plan shifted away from a retainer-based contract for live streaming to a project-based funding model for future work. </span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">This was a staff management decision, taken with due care and analysis. The board's role is to assess whether the overall communications plan is effective in meeting the strategic goals; it does not direct the staff to use specific contract types or contractors. If the needs of the communications plan change again to require live streaming on a full-time basis, the board is confident that the staff will issue the appropriate RFP and conduct the appropriate analysis of the submissions. </span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The project-based funding model remains available, and chapters may, of course, fund specific live streaming events using chapter funds or Beyond The Net grants. Any analysis of the effectiveness of those live streaming events would be valuable data for any future considerations of the engagement model.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The board thanks the ChaC for its attention to the communications plan, and we look forward to continued discussion of how to engage the broader community in the mission of the society. </span></p>
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