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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1C1D">Hi Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1C1D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1C1D">Thanks for raising the question!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1C1D">It is important to note that<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">both MANRS and Pulse do not collect their own data. Instead, they collect
data from validated, credible third parties like CAIDA, APNIC labs etc. </span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">It also is worth noting that<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Pulse<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>does<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>use MANRS as a data source. For instance, it
uses the readiness data from the MANRS Observatory as input on its Internet Resiliency Index. But, as you observed,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1C1D">Pulse is not using the MANRS ROA coverage statistics
for now. This is<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>due to<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>some<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>practical and legacy reasons, such as that the ROA coverage statistics on Pulse predate the MANRS
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">The Pulse team is always looking for feedback on ways to improve Pulse, including ideas about data sources,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>usability issues, errors, or new feature requests.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Please
feel free to share your feedback using <a href="https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/408529b0a6c042ed8362ff49bd0fe624" title="https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/408529b0a6c042ed8362ff49bd0fe624"><span style="color:#0078D7">this form</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>or
reach out to us to chat more about this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">Ryan Polk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">Internet Society</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org> on behalf of Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>, Pulse <pulse@isoc.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Chapter Delegates <Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>, ISOC England <contact@isoc-e.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Pulse and data sources<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 08/03/2024 15:43, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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I was recently going over the Internet Society Pulse data and remembered <br>
Olivier's posting from a few months ago:<br>
><br>
><br>
> 3.4 MANRS<br>
> ISOC made a total divestment of its MANRS project to a US <br>
> not-for-profit, The Global Cyber Alliance (GCA) - and Andrew's <br>
> response was that this was needed because "ISOC is a good incubator <br>
> but terrible at running long term projects".<br>
><br>
> 3.4.1 Why was this divestiture effected given that this was a <br>
> successful project which comforted the ISOC brand as being pertinent?<br>
><br>
> 3.4.2 Was a risk assessment done prior to moving MANRS elsewhere to an <br>
> organisation so close to law enforcement as to ensuring that the <br>
> Internet Society goals and principles in this important area remain at <br>
> the top of the routing security agenda?<br>
><br>
> 3.4.3 By what criteria was the GCA chosen as an suitable organisation <br>
> to run the MANRS project? Were there conditions imposed on Goals?<br>
><br>
> 3.4.4 Are there Performance Agreements (SLAs) in place for the ongoing <br>
> conditional funding of the GCA?<br>
> 3.4.4.1 If yes, are there clauses to cancel the GCA Secretarial and <br>
> Operational duties, should it fail in its SLAs?<br>
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<a href="https://pulse.internetsociety.org/reports-faq">https://pulse.internetsociety.org/reports-faq</a><br>
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and noticed that for Routing Security Adoption and Routing Security <br>
Coverage for IPv4 and Routing Security Coverage for IPv6,<br>
<br>
ISOC uses data from APNIC rather than from their own collected MANRS data:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://observatory.manrs.org/#/roas/">https://observatory.manrs.org/#/roas/</a><br>
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Is there a reason for that?<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Hank<br>
<br>
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