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    <p>Thank you Judith, that's a relief to hear. I will try it as soon
      as i get feedback from my Board and Officers.</p>
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    <p>WYn<br>
      PH<br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26 Jun 2024 12:17 PM, Judith
      Hellerstein via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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      <p>HI All,<br>
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      <p>I believe that once you click on the question 1,  it brings you
        to the survey monkey, and then you can vote  on both questions. 
        I agree it is very confusing.  Since I already voted, I cannot
        see the screen and see the survey monkey, but I recall both
        questions were on the consensus call</p>
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      <p>Best,</p>
      <p>Judith<br>
      </p>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/24 12:10 AM, Winthrop Yu via
        Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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        <p>+1 Christopher <br>
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        </p>
        <p>In the meantime, i have received a "replacement" ballot from
          Rama, but it seems to contain only the option to vote on
          question  1 (Mailing List), there is no option to vote on
          question 2 (Joly / ISOC LIVE). I have emailed Rama back about
          this.<br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>I would recommend that ChAC representatives carefully check
          their ballots (particularly "replacement" ballots) to see if
          they can vote on question 2. Otherwise, inability to vote on
          question 2 counts as a "no" vote.<br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>Given all the above problems, i would still recommend
          re-doing the process, in order to remove any doubts as to the
          validity of the results.<br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>WYn<br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25 Jun 2024 6:01 PM, Christopher
          Hawker wrote:<br>
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                Instead of calling it a consensus call, call it a vote.
                It's rather clear that this is what it is.</div>
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                Rather than requiring all chapters to nominate someone
                in order to cast a vote, select the chapter
                administrator (the most senior chapter delegate for that
                chapter) as the de-facto ChAC representative unless they
                nominate someone. This ensures that all chapters have a
                ChAC representative.</div>
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                Use a proper voting system (rather than a system
                designed for surveys).</div>
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                Missing or uncast votes should never be counted as a no;
                rather they should be counted as abstentions. To regard
                a missing vote as either in favour or against a given
                topic is erroneous.</div>
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            Regards,</div>
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            Christopher Hawker<br>
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              Chapter-delegates <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org></a>
              on behalf of Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <a
                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:46 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Nazar Nicholas <a
                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:nnicholaski@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><nnicholaski@gmail.com></a>;
              Christine Saegesser <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:saegesser@isoc.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><saegesser@isoc.org></a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a
                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] IMPORTANT: vote
              from Chapter Advisory Council - please make sure you vote!</font>
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            <p>It may be (as i was informed in my case) that certain
              Chapter Officer roles on Fonteva have expired. Strange
              though -- when the new AMS went live, i did check Fonteva
              out (and, as always, paid particular attention to the
              Chapter Officer roles and expiry dates). Then there was a
              ChAC call earlier this year, and i checked everything
              again, following the emailed meeting notice's advice to
              check ChAC reps. Well, however Fonteva expires Chapter
              Officer roles, now we know that Fonteva does not send-out
              email warnings of soon-to-expire Officer roles as the
              previous AMS did.<br>
              <br>
            </p>
            <p>Then there's the case of Amrita who is on the ChAC rep
              list but did not receive a ballot.<br>
              <br>
            </p>
            <p>Given the problems with Fonteva, i would recommend that
              this ChAC vote/consensus be re-done (there is a precedent
              for this, at that time even after results were in), after
              Chapters have been reminded to check their Officer roles
              in the AMS and confirming that the Chapters' ChAC
              representatives are registered on the AMS. Else, as a
              missing vote counts as a "no", the missing votes would
              skew this "consensus" and provide an erroneous/misleading
              result.<br>
              <br>
            </p>
            <p>Waiting for corrections to our Chapter's Officer
              roles/list,<br>
              <br>
            </p>
            <p>WYn<br>
              PH<br>
            </p>
            <p><br>
              <br>
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            <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 25 Jun 2024 5:04 PM, Nazar
              Nicholas via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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                  Dear Christine,</div>
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                  Tanzania Chapter is not on the list and we have not
                  changed our delegate as of the last ChA Council vote.
                  Did the migration from MemberNova to Fonteva affect
                  the delegate? I don't understand🙂</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, 25 Jun 2024
                  at 11:28, Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates
                  <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div style="">Hello all!<br>
                    <br>
                    The survey was indeed sent via SurveyMonkey to all
                    current ChAC representatives (see list here: <a
href="https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/list-of-representatives/"
                      target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/list-of-representatives/</a> -
                    if your chapter is not on this list, it means your
                    chapter does not currently have a ChAC
                    representative listed in the Community Portal (AMS)
                    - this is one of the officer roles there) 
                    <div><br>
                      ChAC representatives, please search your mailbox
                      for an email from <a
                        href="mailto:member@surveymonkeyuser.com"
                        target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">member@surveymonkeyuser.com</a> (<a
                        href="mailto:rejman@isoc.org" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">rejman@isoc.org</a> via
                      SurveyMonkey). <br>
                      <br>
                      If you cannot find your ballot, please check if
                      your chapter has a ChAC representative listed and
                      then reach out to <a
                        href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org"
                        target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-support@isoc.org</a> so
                      we can work with you to ensure your Chapter’s ChAC
                      representative has the ballot. </div>
                    <div><br>
                      <div>We will also be in touch on this with those
                        of you who mentioned in the thread below that
                        you didn’t receive the ballot. <br>
                        <br>
                        Best, <br>
                        <br>
                        Christine  <br>
                        <br>
                        <div><b>Christine Saegesser Baethge, Sr.
                            Director Chapters and Special Interest
                            Groups</b><br>
                          <a href="mailto:saegesser@isoc.org"
                            target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">saegesser@isoc.org</a><br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">On 25 Jun 2024, at
                          09:44, Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates <<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          I recommend that the ChAC-SC group take
                          proactive steps to ensure all members have
                          received their ballots. At a minimum, they
                          should promptly address any chapters reporting
                          that they have not received their ballots.<br>
                          <br>
                          -ed<br>
                          <br>
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                          information, is subject to legal privilege,
                          and is intended for the use of the named
                          addressee only. If you are not the intended
                          recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy
                          any part of this email. If you have received
                          this email by mistake, please notify the
                          sender and delete this message immediately.<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 9:33 AM shah zahidur
                          via Chapter-delegates <<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          Its really confusing if it came like survey.
                          couldnt find.<br>
                          <br>
                          I look forward to the ballot.<br>
                          <br>
                          Regard's<br>
                          Shah <br>
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                          On 6/25/24 12:09 AM, Amrita Choudhury via
                          Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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                          I have not received the ballot yet Wyn.<br>
                           +1 Oliview and Eduardo<br>
                          <br>
                          Regards,<br>
                          <br>
                          Amrita<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 5:38 AM Winthrop Yu
                          via Chapter-delegates <<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          +1 Olivier and Eduardo! <br>
                          <br>
                          Problem is -- i am the ChAC voting delegate
                          but have not received any ballot. Any other
                          ChAC voting delegates in other Chapters who
                          have not received ballots? <br>
                          <br>
                          WYn<br>
                          PH<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          On 25 Jun 2024 4:43 AM, Olivier MJ
                          Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                            Dear Chapter Colleagues,<br>
                            <br>
                            your Chapter Advisory Council representative
                            will have received a ballot in their email
                            from <br>
                            <a href="mailto:member@surveymonkeyuser.com"
                              target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">member@surveymonkeyuser.com</a> (<a
                              href="mailto:rejman@isoc.org"
                              target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">rejman@isoc.org</a> via
                            SurveyMonkey)<br>
                            <br>
                            This is an important voting ballot. It is
                            awkwardly called a "consensus call" but in
                            fact it is a VOTE which
                            will determine whether there is support from
                            Chapters for two proposals from Internet
                            Society Puerto Rico Chapter:<br>
                            <br>
                            1. To open the Chapter Delegates Mailing
                            List to Observers<br>
                            2. To ask the Internet Society Board to
                            resume funding for ISOC.LIVE<br>
                            <br>
                            Ask them to FIND THAT BALLOT IN THEIR EMAIL
                            AND VOTE!<br>
                            <br>
                            The deadline for answering this poll will be
                            by end of day 1 July 2024.<br>
                            <br>
                            1. The first proposal is that the
                            Chapter Delegate email list (<a
href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/"
                              target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/</a>) should be
                            opened to chapter members as observers
                            (view only – not allowed to post) to enhance
                            transparency and understanding of ongoing
                            discussions concerning Internet Society
                            chapters.<br>
                            <br>
                            The summary and presentation (3 pages) on
                            the issue of opening the chapter delegate
                            mailing list to chapter members as observers
                            can be found here: <a
href="https://app.box.com/file/1529389295278" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://app.box.com/file/1529389295278</a><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            2. The second proposal is that
                            Internet Society funding for the ISOC LIVE
                            video services and archiving services should
                            be reinstated, and that Internet Society
                            should financially support ISOC LIVE on an
                            ongoing basis.<br>
                            <br>
                            The summary and presentation (4 pages) on
                            the issue of funding support for ISOC LIVE
                            can be found here: <a
href="https://app.box.com/file/1529393003452" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://app.box.com/file/1529393003452</a><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            - For those interested, additional compiled
                            background material can be found at the
                            following link: <a
href="https://isoc.box.com/s/nz55gmctgti8hg5t4trjlbric1c7wogt"
                              target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://isoc.box.com/s/nz55gmctgti8hg5t4trjlbric1c7wogt</a><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            I am not going to comment on the first poll
                            as there are views for/against opening
                            Chapter Delegates mailing list.<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            On the other hand, the second vote about
                            ISOC.LIVE is one where I have very strong
                            views. <br>
                            <br>
                            As you know from some of the updated emails
                            which Joly has sent to the Chapter Delegates
                            mailing list, his service costs in the
                            region of $64 000 per annum and currently
                            Dr. Vint Cerf is funding it out of his own
                            pocket (thank you!) until August 2024. Past
                            that date we do not know what will happen.
                            It is therefore very important that we,
                            as Chapters, ask for the Internet Society
                            Board of Trustees to bring back the funding
                            for this excellent resource which many
                            Chapters have benefited from - and your
                            chapter can benefit directly too! The
                            discussion is not about "live" and
                            "recorded" or whatever ISOC is trying
                            to make you believe. It is about having a
                            channel that has high production value, with
                            captions, titles, names of speakers,
                            sound and video enhancement, a full
                            description, as well as publicity for your
                            event on many external mailing lists,
                            raising the profile of your chapter
                            and increasing the number of viewers for
                            your content. Joly brings 40 years of
                            experience in that field - he is no amateur
                            and the productions speak for themselves.<br>
                            Year ago, this was promoted by ISOC - in
                            fact there was even talk of some video
                            equipment to be shared with Chapters so they
                            could stream their event with better quality
                            picture etc. But in recent years, the
                            Chapters have seen all of this taken
                            away from them and replaced with... nothing
                            but bureaucracy to stop them from utilising
                            the resource. <br>
                            <br>
                            Not convinced?<br>
                            Check this: <a href="https://isoc.live/"
                              target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://isoc.live/</a><br>
                            And this: <a
href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/internetsociety</a>   -
                            24 000 followers<br>
                            And this too: <a
href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety2" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/internetsociety2</a><br>
                            And that: <a
href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety3" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/internetsociety3</a><br>
                            And it's all in the process of being
                            archived for posterity at <a
                              href="http://archive.org" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">archive.org</a> !<br>
                            <a
href="https://archive.org/details/isoc-live" target="_blank"
class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://archive.org/details/isoc-live</a><br>
                            <br>
                            All done by one person working with the
                            Internet Society Chapters.<br>
                            <br>
                            A bargain at $64K all included. But you
                            might ask - "I thought ISOC does not have
                            the money?"<br>
                            The Internet Society is receiving $30M per
                            annum from PIR.<br>
                            The Internet Society foundation is receiving
                            $30M per annum from PIR too.<br>
                            And you're telling me there is no funding
                            for a sum that constitutes 0.21% of that
                            $30M budget?<br>
                            0.1% of the total budget Internet Society +
                            Internet Society Foundation?<br>
                            <br>
                            Think about it and vote YES to ask the Board
                            to reinstate funding for ISOC.LIVE<br>
                            <br>
                            And vote - because if you don't, it's like
                            voting no. ISOC.LIVE will no longer be
                            funded and you'll only have yourselves
                            to blame for losing the opportunity to
                            showcase your Chapter's activities.<br>
                            <br>
                            Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br>
                            (speaking on my own behalf and not on behalf
                            of any Chapter)<br>
                            <br>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a
        class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="https://community.internetsociety.org"
        moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.
-
View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a
        class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/"
        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.internetsociety.org">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.
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View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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