<div><div dir="auto"><div>I recommend that the ChAC-SC group take proactive steps to ensure all members have received their ballots. At a minimum, they should promptly address any chapters reporting that they have not received their ballots.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-ed<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><b style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Notice</b>:</font><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">This email may contain confidential information, is subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately.</span><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 9:33 AM shah zahidur via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"></div>
        <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">Its really confusing if it came like survey. couldnt find.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">I look forward to the ballot.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">Regard's</div></div></div><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif">Shah </div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif"><br></div>
        
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                        On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 10:17:50 AM GMT+6, Judith Hellerstein via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:
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    <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Hi All,</p>
    <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I received mine on June 17 and it came from this email address. 
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      <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:member@surveymonkeyuser.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">member@surveymonkeyuser.com</a> (<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:rejman@isoc.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">rejman@isoc.org</a> via
      SurveyMonkey)It was not titled a ballot but a consensus call</p>
    <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I would search for this email and you should be able to find it.
      It is only sent to the person listed in the chapter as being the
      rep to the chapter advisory council<br clear="none">
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    <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Best,</p>
    <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Judith<br clear="none">
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Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
Hellerstein & Associates
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    <div id="m_-8242386391938191669m_-5071772614125562317yiv9292086676yqtfd42440" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On 6/25/24 12:09 AM, Amrita Choudhury
      via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br clear="none">
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        <div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">+1 Oliview and Eduardo</span><br clear="none">
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        <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at
          5:38 AM Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
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            <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">+1 Olivier and Eduardo! <br clear="none">
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            <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Problem is -- i am the ChAC voting delegate but have <b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">not</b>
              received any ballot. Any other ChAC voting delegates in
              other Chapters who have <b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">not</b> received ballots? <br clear="none">
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            <p style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">WYn<br clear="none">
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            <div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On 25 Jun 2024 4:43 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via
              Chapter-delegates wrote:<br clear="none">
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            <blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> Dear Chapter Colleagues,<br clear="none">
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              your Chapter Advisory Council representative will have
              received a ballot in their email from <br clear="none">
              <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:member@surveymonkeyuser.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">member@surveymonkeyuser.com</a>
              (<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:rejman@isoc.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">rejman@isoc.org</a>
              via SurveyMonkey)<br clear="none">
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              This is an important voting ballot. It is awkwardly called
              a "consensus call" but in fact it is a VOTE which will
              determine whether there is support from Chapters for two
              proposals from Internet Society Puerto Rico Chapter:<br clear="none">
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              1. To open the Chapter Delegates Mailing List to Observers<br clear="none">
              2. To ask the Internet Society Board to resume funding for
              ISOC.LIVE<br clear="none">
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              Ask them to FIND THAT BALLOT IN THEIR EMAIL AND VOTE!<br clear="none">
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              The deadline for answering this poll will be by end of day
              <strong style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">1 July 2024.</strong><br clear="none">
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              <strong style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">1.</strong> The first proposal is that the Chapter
              Delegate email list (<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/9j1PvCydjOv_2BLwgl0oF53jwwio0telZ8N1DGWXKxh_2B2imhkcgutD5QyUYNErbkzs4iO8dao46hRbC7dgbAcr9e0p_2B6JIVnXSfVQ47Yl6xCcZMkcDAcEYtyhkLBmMX5ADyh_2FzXkJ5tBh6vs_2FnOoeSYNR_2B_2BXz_2FZ_2BOxmNjaRBqxyQzb7yNpcM5ZV8HotkSpTN_2F69_2FjqpsSIl2DZ3fIY7zVQQA_3D_3D" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/</a>)
              should be opened to chapter members as observers (view
              only – not allowed to post) to enhance transparency and
              understanding of ongoing discussions concerning Internet
              Society chapters.<br clear="none">
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              The summary and presentation (3 pages) on the issue of
              opening the chapter delegate mailing list to chapter
              members as observers can be found here: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/WNK14PnkIGXfG63_2FHXq0b2bYhbCX4DESD8ubYv7rFyMv2mYL9DvpRLphVijV2Hf5qFmLmJTy8oXorFVCer5rPUDRSu2RWqM81C433snstQuuOxbSErC53ChtnYdUX3_2Fi5t_2FfkfYrrSZnEqFbcTb9FprQ_2BogpBlaACtJoU0PeDhzbm01UiqpNlo0G_2BxwrZ_2FjZ" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://app.box.com/file/1529389295278</a><br clear="none">
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              <strong style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">2.</strong> The second proposal is that Internet
              Society funding for the ISOC LIVE video services and
              archiving services should be reinstated, and that Internet
              Society should financially support ISOC LIVE on an ongoing
              basis.<br clear="none">
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              The summary and presentation (4 pages) on the issue of
              funding support for ISOC LIVE can be found here: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/WNK14PnkIGXfG63_2FHXq0b2bYhbCX4DESD8ubYv7rFyMsA5DZ517yOaOx9IZhWaab_2BpCT_2F2kj3ERbPd47gUR786_2BBXIZRhk57sJn4UcAw6JXKa6yC_2F0ROP6njdgm3SO258rVRti4qfM6glJpRKFoDHqHu0uPcGY1knu8x9KM8o2Kx8Ad2ZwcTmF0b69FlzAiG" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://app.box.com/file/1529393003452</a><br clear="none">
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              - For those interested, additional compiled background
              material can be found at the following link: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/99R008gs9BbcWq1C_2FLGbukNXhhxw93tZBbp_2Fg9wuWcg5jqr1LOXyrz3YWk6X6rDnZhg0MDyK5PJRjwIzdDH0EtC5dgnpdxRZgnrmXsDF447hZOmP0OfoVcVHoyB9PoyOcpvqU_2FxrFHT_2BT691WXPZVWA_2BSQvZpRkxvF0xZhnYfselR1x_2BI5Me3dD5KKqxM5MqFs7z87Z3808VA1e7iCukzw_3D_3D" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://isoc.box.com/s/nz55gmctgti8hg5t4trjlbric1c7wogt</a><br clear="none">
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              I am not going to comment on the first poll as there are
              views for/against opening Chapter Delegates mailing list.<br clear="none">
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              <b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On the other hand, the second vote about ISOC.LIVE is
                one where I have very strong views. </b><br clear="none">
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              As you know from some of the updated emails which Joly has
              sent to the Chapter Delegates mailing list, his service
              costs in the region of $64 000 per annum and currently Dr.
              Vint Cerf is funding it out of his own pocket (thank you!)
              until August 2024. Past that date we do not know what will
              happen. It is therefore very important that we, as
              Chapters, ask for the Internet Society Board of Trustees
              to bring back the funding for this excellent resource
              which many Chapters have benefited from - and your chapter
              can benefit directly too! The discussion is not about
              "live" and "recorded" or whatever ISOC is trying to make
              you believe. It is about having a channel that has high
              production value, with captions, titles, names of
              speakers, sound and video enhancement, a full description,
              as well as publicity for your event on many external
              mailing lists, raising the profile of your chapter and
              increasing the number of viewers for your content. Joly
              brings 40 years of experience in that field - he is no
              amateur and the productions speak for themselves.<br clear="none">
              Year ago, this was promoted by ISOC - in fact there was
              even talk of some video equipment to be shared with
              Chapters so they could stream their event with better
              quality picture etc. But in recent years, the Chapters
              have seen all of this taken away from them and replaced
              with... nothing but bureaucracy to stop them from
              utilising the resource. <br clear="none">
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              Not convinced?<br clear="none">
              Check this: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://isoc.live/" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://isoc.live/</a><br clear="none">
              And this: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://livestream.com/internetsociety</a>  
              - 24 000 followers<br clear="none">
              And this too: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety2" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://livestream.com/internetsociety2</a><br clear="none">
              And that: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety3" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://livestream.com/internetsociety3</a><br clear="none">
              And it's all in the process of being archived for
              posterity at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://archive.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">archive.org</a> !<br clear="none">
              <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://archive.org/details/isoc-live" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://archive.org/details/isoc-live</a><br clear="none">
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              All done by one person working with the Internet Society
              Chapters.<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              A bargain at $64K all included. But you might ask - "I
              thought ISOC does not have the money?"<br clear="none">
              The Internet Society is receiving $30M per annum from PIR.<br clear="none">
              The Internet Society foundation is receiving $30M per
              annum from PIR too.<br clear="none">
              And you're telling me there is no funding for a sum that
              constitutes 0.21% of that $30M budget?<br clear="none">
              0.1% of the total budget Internet Society + Internet
              Society Foundation?<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              <b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Think about it and vote YES to ask the Board to
                reinstate funding for ISOC.LIVE</b><br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              And vote - because if you don't, it's like voting no.
              ISOC.LIVE will no longer be funded and you'll only have
              yourselves to blame for losing the opportunity to showcase
              your Chapter's activities.<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              Olivier Crépin-Leblond<br clear="none">
              (speaking on my own behalf and not on behalf of any
              Chapter)<br clear="none">
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://community.internetsociety.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.
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View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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          As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically
          subscribed<br clear="none">
          to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the
          Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://community.internetsociety.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.<br clear="none">
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          View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a><br clear="none">
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://community.internetsociety.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.
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View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://community.internetsociety.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.internetsociety.org</a>.<br>
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View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a><br>
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