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<p>Hi Andrew<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:al3dhc3dyvrmhx7j2xwhyqy3okmpiuqg55kwrvzm6qfyqw7ggy@ojwkv4pvjtp6">Hi,
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">There is, indeed, a feeling, which we
believe is also shared with at least a few other chapter
leaders, that there isn't enough space to contribute to ISOC
plans and positions from the very beginning. Chapter inputs are
seen more as a consultation to check if the ideas previously
formulated are okay.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
During the work that was preparatory for the 2023 board retreat,
where they worked on the strategic plan, we asked staff at every
opportunity they had when speaking to our community to try to get
input to the question, "What do you think is the biggest threat to
the Internet's future?" We got a lot of great feedback from that,
and we carefully parsed and catergorized it so that the board
could use it as part of their input for the strategy discussion.
So that seems to me to be an example of some of what you're
talking about.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Yes,
exactly, and this is the kind of interaction that I mentioned
before about the
Staff+Board being very open to contributions - but our suggestion
is
formalizing it a bit more, if this format wouldn't make this type
of
consultation less effective.</p>
<p><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:al3dhc3dyvrmhx7j2xwhyqy3okmpiuqg55kwrvzm6qfyqw7ggy@ojwkv4pvjtp6">
<br>
But you may be suggesting either that the community be part of
making the annual plan or that the community be part of building
policy positions prior to a PDP.
<br>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Not "making" the annual plan, of course, but at least being heard
through more effective mechanisms. Regarding "building policy
positions prior to a PDP", well, maybe, although in an indirect
way, if there are continuous bidirectional consultations with the
community, so that the Board and the staff become aware of the
community positions on various relevant issues.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:al3dhc3dyvrmhx7j2xwhyqy3okmpiuqg55kwrvzm6qfyqw7ggy@ojwkv4pvjtp6">
<br>
In the former case, I just don't understand how it would work. As
it is, annual planning starts each year about now. Prior to this
point in the year, the staff are largely involved with working on
starting the implementation of the prior annual plan. We have
more than 100,000 people in our community and right now about 130
chapters and SIGs. I don't know how to structure "very beginning"
input from such a wide group of people without it taking an
enormous amoung of time -- the annual planning exercise would have
to start in the prior year, just to be ready by the time the board
needs to approve it (and its associated budget).
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I
fully agree
with you that it would be unfeasible to <u>directly </u>involve
100,000 people and 130 chapters and SIGs in the preparation of the
annual planning. This is related to the last part of the previous
message: We think chapters
could, possibly, help to plan tools or methods on how to improve
ways to get inputs from the community into this process, and the
Chapters Advisory Council could be the right place to discuss
proposals for such tools or methods.
If we don't find a way, at least we tried to, and this would
already be greatly
appreciated.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Of
course
there is no size fits all since chapters might have different ways
to
contribute, also depending on the topic. Some prefer to write to
the list,
others 1:1 time with staff, maybe calls and workshops in different
languages,
and so on. To understand those nuances is already a big step.
Together we could
define multiple but convergent paths to effectively being heard in
the process.
At least it is worth some effort, and even if it doesn’t work 100%
immediately,
it can be a work in continuous progress, on a joint effort between
chapters,
the ChAC, the staff, and the Board. We agree that we need to
invest time in
improving existing processes and human resources allocated to
accomplish it.
Wouldn’t dare to say it is easy, but it is needed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">And
thank you for the opportunity to engage in this very productive
dialogue.<br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Flávio</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:al3dhc3dyvrmhx7j2xwhyqy3okmpiuqg55kwrvzm6qfyqw7ggy@ojwkv4pvjtp6">
<br>
In the latter case, it would seem that your view might require
changes to the PDP:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/">https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/</a>
If not, then the part where members "flag issues" is already
available, and I hope that all our colleagues are indeed flagging
such issues and thereby contributing at the very beginning.
<br>
<br>
I've I've misunderstood your intent, please correct me. Thanks.
<br>
<br>
Best regards,
<br>
<br>
A
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Instituto de Informática
Porto Alegre, Brasil
Presidente da Internet Society Brasil
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