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    Dear Cheryl,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for explaining the function of the Chapter Advisory
    Council.<br>
    <br>
    I would add a few more thing: <br>
    For information to others here, the Chapter Advisory Council's
    summary description is on:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/">https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/</a><br>
    <br>
    Its function is defined by the Charter published on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/charter/">https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/charter/</a><br>
    <br>
    I should add, having been amongst the Chapters that proposed the
    Chapter AC and drafted the Charter, that the Chapter AC is not an
    exclusive channel for all conversations between the President &
    CEO and Board of Trustees of the Internet Society and the Chapters.
    Rather it serves as a facilitator to help with communication and
    provide clarity over what Chapters are asking for when sometimes
    there are mixed messages coming from Chapters. So it is an
    additional channel - and a very strong one indeed as it is able to
    work out a consensus amongst Chapters on major issues.<br>
    <br>
    As such, I hope that you and your Steering Committee have taken note
    of the points which have been discussed here and are putting
    together a working plan on how to resolve these with the President,
    CEO and Board. Some significant concerns have been expressed, not by
    isolated voices but by many Chapters on several points, so they
    cannot be dropped in between the floorboards.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/04/2024 03:31, Cheryl Langdon-Orr
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          specific questions re ChAC Luis,  in addition to email lists
          and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the
          ChAC as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4
          times a year (once a calendar quarter) and the report/update
          to the BoT occurs at the BoT meeting immediately after that
          plenary session, (often only days later in fact), BUT of
          course anything urgent or time critical can and would be
          transmitted intersessional to the calendar cadence of BoT
          gatherings...   </div>
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          style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Additionally, the
          ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only any
          ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are
          discussed, reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more
          recent meetings  (at least since the end of 2022) an 'always
          open 24x7' box note system where any matter for the attention
          of the ChAC can be raised for between meeting note and action;
          as well as a separate open to ChAC Reps box note where any
          suggestions for topics and activities for future ChAC
          plenaries can be proposed is in operation.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55,
          66499 via Chapter-delegates <<a
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              <div dir="auto">Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All, <br>
                <br>
                Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the
                right questions to ourselves. What is the ISOC we
                imagine, the one we need and what is possible to have ?
                Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the
                ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information
                to get to the Board ? If able, how the board may ask for
                some action and finally how long it takes some change to
                happen ? That is something we have not figured out how
                to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that
                keeps us always around the same place. That’s why we
                need more strategy which needs to be figured out from
                collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have
                the feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be
                building that future we would like to be at. <br>
                <br>
                Let’s keep the discussion. <br>
                <br>
                Sincerely,<br>
                <br>
                Luis<br>
                <br>
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              <div>Prof. Luis M Martínez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE,
                MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana
                Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet
                Society</div>
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            <div name="messageReplySection">On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600,
              Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <<a
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              wrote:<br>
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                <p>There used to be regular Regional (in-person)
                  meetings of the Chapters too ... until the Regional
                  Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement was
                  centralized.<br>
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                <p>WYn<br>
                </p>
                <div>On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via
                  Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                      recall Chapters and members meetings used to
                      happen at every ICANN back in the day, organized
                      by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to
                      be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively
                      discussion.</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                      have a few archived</div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      44 <a href="https://isoc.live/4047/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/4047/</a></div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      46 <a href="https://isoc.live/5359/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/5359/</a></div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      49 <a href="https://isoc.live/6454/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/6454/</a></div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      50 Chapter workshop <a
                        href="https://isoc.live/6762/" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/6762/</a><br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      50 <a href="https://isoc.live/6765/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/6765/</a><br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      51 <a href="https://isoc.live/7095/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/7095/</a></div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      52 <a href="https://isoc.live/7458/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/7458/</a></div>
                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN
                      53 <a href="https://isoc.live/7847/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://isoc.live/7847/</a></div>
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                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Joly</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 1,
                      2024 at 11:08 AM Osvaldo Larancuent via
                      Chapter-delegates <<a
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                                style="font-size:11pt">Hi,</span></p>
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                                style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Luis,
                                we second with your proposal to
                                establish a special real life event once
                                a year for the Internet Society
                                community, addressing different issues
                                based on an agenda, is not an utopian
                                dream, especially when that’s the rule
                                on other technical communities,
                                considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so on.</span></p>
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                                style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Best
                                regards,</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Osvaldo<br>
                                   <br>
                                  ----<br>
                                   <br>
                                  Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto<br>
                                  Chair</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"
                                  lang="EN-US">Internet Society chapter
                                  Dominican Republic (isoc.do)</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" lang="ES-TRAD"><a
                                    href="https://isoc.do"
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                                      style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https:</span><span
                                      style="color:rgb(5,99,193)"
                                      lang="EN-US">//isoc.do</span></a></span>
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                                        style="color:black">De:</span></b>
                                    <span style="color:black">Chapter-delegates
                                      <<a
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                                      en nombre de Pedro de Perdigão
                                      Lana via Chapter-delegates <<a
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                                      <b>Fecha:</b> lunes, 1 de abril de
                                      2024, 8:51</span><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span
                                      style="color:black">a. m.<br>
                                      <b>Para:</b> <a
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                                      <<a href="mailto:drhipo@me.com"
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                                      <b>CC:</b> Luis Martinez via
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                                      <b>Asunto:</b> Re:
                                      [Chapter-delegates] A call to
                                      chapters’ action</span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Luis,</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Loved the
                                      suggestion! </p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">I'm just not
                                      sure about doing it as a totally
                                      separate event. Considering how
                                      much one could save with
                                      logistics, maybe doing a short
                                      survey related to what events in
                                      2024/2025 chapter leaders will be
                                      the most present at and trying to
                                      create an opportunity for a hybrid
                                      Chapters reunion right before or
                                      after the larger event would work
                                      well. If it is in their interest,
                                      ChAC could have a central role in
                                      this. It seems interesting to also
                                      elaborate a position document as a
                                      result - if that sounds good to
                                      others, I'd suggest having a
                                      methodology similar to what
                                      already happens in other summits
                                      and working groups: most of the
                                      substantial work (definitions of
                                      common agendas and concerns, etc.)
                                      would be made a few months before
                                      the actual meeting (focusing on
                                      finalizing and confirming the
                                      text), so we could then present it
                                      publicly.</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Cordially,</p>
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:garamond,serif">Pedro de Perdigão Lana<br>
                                              </span></b> <span
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href="https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">Lawyer</a>,
                                              <a
href="https://www.gedai.com.br/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">GEDAI/UFPR</a>
                                              Researcher<br>
                                            </span> <span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:garamond,serif">PhD Candidate (UFPR),
                                              LLM in Business Law
                                              (UCoimbra)<br>
                                            </span> <span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:garamond,serif">Board Member @ <a
href="https://br.creativecommons.net/" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">CC
                                                Brasil</a>, <a
href="https://isoc.org.br/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ISOC
                                                BR</a> and <a
href="https://ioda.org.br/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">IODA</a></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Em sáb., 30 de
                                      mar. de 2024 às 23:51, 66499 via
                                      Chapter-delegates <<a
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                                      escreveu:</p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                            Members and Friends of ISOC,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            During the last months, we
                                            have read many stories about
                                            the tools we need to build a
                                            better Internet for
                                            everyone, not just the
                                            software and resources but
                                            policies that may future
                                            shape the organizations and
                                            regions. Some discussions
                                            are happening at a national
                                            or regional level, others
                                            organized by the staff that
                                            we interact with. However,
                                            most is happening in the
                                            email lists as we have been
                                            precluded of meeting
                                            physically for long time. As
                                            a member of ISOC, I would,
                                            respectfully, like to make a
                                            call to our 120+ chapters to
                                            collectively think about how
                                            we can organize in the short
                                            term a discussion about the
                                            issues that we face to
                                            fulfill our mission -global,
                                            regional or national. Not a
                                            meeting organized and
                                            conducted by Staff, not
                                            within another
                                            organizations’ event, but by
                                            the Chapters and their
                                            leadership with open
                                            participation. It may be an
                                            utopia but we know that we
                                            are well capable of do it. <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Sincerely,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Luis Martinez *<br>
                                            Member of the board of
                                            trustees ISOC<br>
                                            ISOC MX<br>
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                                            PS * By the way, 66499 is
                                            not my name. Still, I don’t
                                            know who may help me to
                                            display my name when writing
                                            to the Chapter’s Delegate
                                            List. </p>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):
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View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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