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Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right questions to ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we need and what is possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information to get to the Board ? If able, how the board may ask for some action and finally how long it takes some change to happen ? That is something we have not figured out how to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always around the same place. That’s why we need more strategy which needs to be figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would like to be at. <br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Luis<br>
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<div>Prof. Luis M Martínez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>, wrote:<br>
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<p>There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement was centralized.<br></p>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 44 <a href="https://isoc.live/4047/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/4047/</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 46 <a href="https://isoc.live/5359/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/5359/</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 49 <a href="https://isoc.live/6454/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/6454/</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 50 <a href="https://isoc.live/6765/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/6765/</a><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 51 <a href="https://isoc.live/7095/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/7095/</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 52 <a href="https://isoc.live/7458/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/7458/</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ICANN 53 <a href="https://isoc.live/7847/" target="_blank">https://isoc.live/7847/</a></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that’s the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so on.</span></p>
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<b>Fecha:</b> lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">a. m.<br>
<b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:drhipo@me.com" target="_blank">drhipo@me.com</a> <<a href="mailto:drhipo@me.com" target="_blank">drhipo@me.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly.</p>
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During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations’ event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it. <br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Luis Martinez *<br>
Member of the board of trustees ISOC<br>
ISOC MX<br>
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PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don’t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter’s Delegate List. </p>
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