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--></style></head><body lang=FR-BE link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi </span><span lang=EN-US>Sivasubramanian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>No, my suggestion is not to shift the responsibility from isoc.org to chapters, but well to act TOGETHER, each entity taking a part corresponding to its capacity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This is a general principle that should apply to everything IMO. I’m building a proposal in that sense about the fundraising discussion – I’ll post in another thread.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Frederic Taes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>ISOC Belgium<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De : </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Sivasubramanian M <6.internet@gmail.com><br><b>Date : </b>mercredi 13 mars 2024 à 03:03<br><b>À : </b>Frédéric Taes <ftaes@tsf.be><br><b>Cc : </b>Jeffry Fernandez <jeffry.fernandez@gmail.com>, Andrew Sullivan <sullivan@isoc.org>, <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org><br><b>Objet : </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC LIVE - the reports of its death are exaggerated, but..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Frederic. this wouldn't work. It is roundabout, not every chapter has such a system to thoughtfully provision for live stream and zoom services. Your suggestion to shift the responsibility from <a href="http://isoc.org">isoc.org</a> to Chapters and consolidate allocation from every chapter into a whole?? <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sivasubramanian M<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:59 AM Frédéric Taes via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Dear Andrew, Jeffry and everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I’m reading this: “<i><span style='color:black;background:white'>Joly is one of the most valuable support that all the Chapters have, I suggest you and your staff do an extra effort to keep him helping the organization, we don’t know the numbers and budget you manage, but we are sure you can do something to keep his valuable help to all of us. </span></i><span style='color:black;background:white'>“</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>It’s a good suggestion, however it’s always easy to ask to someone else to make an extra effort and give money: I would suggest everyone asking to support Joly to also do an effort, as a global organization.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Each chapter has the chapter admin funding, and there’s the general admin support for video conference.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>For my Chapter, I’ll propose to give an equivalent amount of money of a Zoom license for Joly’s services. <a href="https://www.isocfoundation.org/chapter-admin-funding-lists-of-costs/" target="_blank">https://www.isocfoundation.org/chapter-admin-funding-lists-of-costs/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>The optimum would be if the staff could consolidate this for all chapters, to avoid duplication of bank transfer costs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>It could be a mixed model, as for each chapter giving x amount of money, Internet Society (Foundation) would add extra money.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>This principle could be applied to other requests, as life interpretation (Eduardo ;-)), Internet Society Knowledge Base (myself ;-)), Regional Chapter Workshops…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>That way, with Chapters having to give some money themselves too, we’ll see which services really interest many chapters, and which don’t.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Because Andrew is right: we cannot do everything. If others support this idea, may the Chapter Advisory Council work on a proposal?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m8061246265384684910lang-en><i><span lang=EN>Unity makes strength.</span></i></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Frederic Taes,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>ISOC Belgium Chapter - President</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De : </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>> au nom de Jeffry Fernandez via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br><b>Répondre à : </b>Jeffry Fernandez <<a href="mailto:jeffry.fernandez@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffry.fernandez@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date : </b>mardi 12 mars 2024 à 20:50<br><b>À : </b>Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:sullivan@isoc.org" target="_blank">sullivan@isoc.org</a>><br><b>Cc : </b><<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br><b>Objet : </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC LIVE - the reports of its death are exaggerated, but..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black;background:white'>Dear Andrew and colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black;background:white'>Joly is one of the most valuable support that all the Chapters have, I suggest you and your staff do an extra effort to keep him helping the organization, we don’t know the numbers and budget you manage, but we are sure you can do something to keep his valuable help to all of us. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black;background:white'>Thank you for listening </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jeffry S. Fernandez<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mexico Chapter<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>El 12 mar 2024, a la(s) 7:49 a.m., Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login" target="_blank">https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login</a> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):<br><a href="https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login" target="_blank">https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login</a><br>View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>