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Dear Andrew,<br>
<br>
thank you for your kind responses. Please find my responses inline:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/03/2024 12:10, Andrew Sullivan
via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:26j2iq3xp4gj2jzvuqbdr577xl5ezveitqioofrssl4lrmd4fa@ftsftqqodetp">Hello,
<br>
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 08:06:19AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher via
Chapter-delegates wrote: <br>
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Let me try to rephrase: ISOC publicizes a yearly financial
statement
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Yes. <br>
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<br>
<blockquote type="cite">My idea of a financial statement would be
what RIPE publishes every year (for
<br>
2022):
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</blockquote>
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Well, that is also a financial statement. As I said (and posted
on this list) in response to a question from the UK England
chapter, if the community wants the Internet Society to post
dramatically more detailed financial information, that is a
governance decision that needs to be made by the board (probably
initially by the finance committee). It is not something I can do
myself. <br>
<br>
I will note, as I did in that posting, that generation of some
kinds of financial reports is, at the Internet Society, currently
still more labour intensive than I would like; and I would prefer
to continue investing in the capabilities to do these things
automatically than investing in people to make reports. <br>
</blockquote>
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We are not asking for analysis. Quite the contrary, we are asking
for more transparency on already existing report. We assume that
they exist because any firm would produce abbreviated accounts
starting from detailed accounts. As abbreviated figures are
currently published, we assume that detailed account exist. I would
be very concerned if details of every project budget in the Internet
Society did not exist. That would be alarming.<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:26j2iq3xp4gj2jzvuqbdr577xl5ezveitqioofrssl4lrmd4fa@ftsftqqodetp">
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But regardless of the current actual capabilities (which are
orders of magnitude better than thety were when I started), I
think what information is published to the community and when is
not something that I or anyone else on the staff gets to decide.
That is clearly a governance matter and I think you need to take
it up with the board. <br>
</blockquote>
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Thank you - that is exactly what we shall do.<br>
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[...]<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:26j2iq3xp4gj2jzvuqbdr577xl5ezveitqioofrssl4lrmd4fa@ftsftqqodetp">
<blockquote type="cite">In the past, ISOC produced as Annual
Review:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/organization-reports/">https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/organization-reports/</a>
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last of which was from 2014:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/</a>
<br>
ISOCAnnualReport2014.pdf
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<br>
which did provide on the last 6 pages a very nice short
financial review.
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</blockquote>
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I think that financial review is substantially the same as the
financial statements that we post now; but if you see something
substantively missing in the current financial statements as
compared to the past, it is possible that something got simplified
away at some point that shouldn't have been. If that is the case,
we ought to ensure that it is in the statements (because I don't
think that's beyond the existing policies of the board). <br>
</blockquote>
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If you compare the above with the financial statements at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/2022-Financial-Statements.pdf">https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/2022-Financial-Statements.pdf</a>
you'll see that one is roughly 5-6 pages long and the other 3. The
2014 report is a lot more detailed, especially the table on page 43
which provides details of every source or revenue and the major
sources of expenses. I would have expected the costs in rolling out
the "new AMS based on SalesForce" to be listed there and to also
show the reduction of USD 63,600 to be reflected in as a decrease in
the the $6M budget for Strategic Communications & Stakeholder
Relations.<br>
But in another email you mentioned you were not ready to release
such data, so you might wish to reconsider that.<br>
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cite="mid:26j2iq3xp4gj2jzvuqbdr577xl5ezveitqioofrssl4lrmd4fa@ftsftqqodetp">
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As for the reviews that were produced until 2014 (note that I
didn't start in this job until 2018), we started producing this
instead: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/impact-report/2022/">https://www.internetsociety.org/impact-report/2022/</a>. <br>
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Thank you, that is helpful.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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