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    <p>+1 Sivas. There's also the erroneous assumption that all Chapters
      receive Admin Funding -- IIRC, about a third of Chapters have been
      unable to receive funding of any kind from ISOC Central since the
      new Chapters' Letter was enforced several years back. So these
      Chapters have to make do with what they can source locally, and/or
      work with and thru partner CSOs in order to continue work on
      initiatives that align with ISOC's mission. <br>
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    <p>This is the main point -- ISOC's mission. While Vint's kind offer
      to step-in and chip-in to support Joly's work is much appreciated
      by all, the LiveStreaming and other value-added services that Joly
      includes is central to ISOC's mission and should properly be the
      responsibility of ISOC Central, not Chapters, and not individual
      donors. <br>
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    <p>Others have detailed the work that Joly does and does very well
      indeed -- at $60K/year that's a bargain, practically minuscule
      when viewed against the overall budget and the other big ticket
      items that ISOC spends for. If ISOC were to replicate Joly's work
      it would likely take multiple staffers, cost far more, and likely
      be less responsive. These experienced individuals provide ISOC
      with excellent and cost-effective service.</p>
    <p>The calls by Charles and Greg are much appreciated, thank you!</p>
    <p>WYn<br>
      PH<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Frederic. this wouldn't work. It is roundabout, not
        every chapter has such a system to thoughtfully provision for
        live stream and zoom services.  Your suggestion to shift the
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          2:59 AM Frédéric Taes via Chapter-delegates <<a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Andrew,
                    Jeffry and everyone,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m reading
                    this: “<i><span style="color:black;background:white">Joly
                        is one of the most valuable support that all the
                        Chapters have, I suggest you and your staff do
                        an extra effort to keep him helping the
                        organization, we don’t know the numbers and
                        budget you manage, but we are sure you can do
                        something to keep his valuable help to all of
                        us. </span></i><span
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It’s a good
                    suggestion, however it’s always easy to ask to
                    someone else to make an extra effort and give money:
                    I would suggest everyone asking to support Joly to
                    also do an effort, as a global organization.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Each chapter has
                    the chapter admin funding, and there’s the general
                    admin support for video conference.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">For my Chapter,
                    I’ll propose to give an equivalent amount of money
                    of a Zoom license for Joly’s services. <a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The optimum
                    would be if the staff could consolidate this for all
                    chapters, to avoid duplication of bank transfer
                    costs.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It could be a
                    mixed model, as for each chapter giving x amount of
                    money, Internet Society (Foundation) would add extra
                    money.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This principle
                    could be applied to other requests, as life
                    interpretation (Eduardo ;-)), Internet Society
                    Knowledge Base (myself ;-)), Regional Chapter
                    Workshops…</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">That way, with
                    Chapters having to give some money themselves too,
                    we’ll see which services really interest many
                    chapters, and which don’t.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Because Andrew
                    is right: we cannot do everything. If others support
                    this idea, may the Chapter Advisory Council work on
                    a proposal?</span></p>
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                        lang="EN">Unity makes strength.</span></i></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best Regards,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Frederic Taes,<br>
                    ISOC Belgium Chapter - President</span></p>
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