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<p>+1 Sivas. There's also the erroneous assumption that all Chapters
receive Admin Funding -- IIRC, about a third of Chapters have been
unable to receive funding of any kind from ISOC Central since the
new Chapters' Letter was enforced several years back. So these
Chapters have to make do with what they can source locally, and/or
work with and thru partner CSOs in order to continue work on
initiatives that align with ISOC's mission. <br>
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<p>This is the main point -- ISOC's mission. While Vint's kind offer
to step-in and chip-in to support Joly's work is much appreciated
by all, the LiveStreaming and other value-added services that Joly
includes is central to ISOC's mission and should properly be the
responsibility of ISOC Central, not Chapters, and not individual
donors. <br>
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<p>Others have detailed the work that Joly does and does very well
indeed -- at $60K/year that's a bargain, practically minuscule
when viewed against the overall budget and the other big ticket
items that ISOC spends for. If ISOC were to replicate Joly's work
it would likely take multiple staffers, cost far more, and likely
be less responsive. These experienced individuals provide ISOC
with excellent and cost-effective service.</p>
<p>The calls by Charles and Greg are much appreciated, thank you!</p>
<p>WYn<br>
PH<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Frederic. this wouldn't work. It is roundabout, not
every chapter has such a system to thoughtfully provision for
live stream and zoom services. Your suggestion to shift the
responsibility from <a href="http://isoc.org"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Andrew,
Jeffry and everyone,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m reading
this: “<i><span style="color:black;background:white">Joly
is one of the most valuable support that all the
Chapters have, I suggest you and your staff do
an extra effort to keep him helping the
organization, we don’t know the numbers and
budget you manage, but we are sure you can do
something to keep his valuable help to all of
us. </span></i><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It’s a good
suggestion, however it’s always easy to ask to
someone else to make an extra effort and give money:
I would suggest everyone asking to support Joly to
also do an effort, as a global organization.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Each chapter has
the chapter admin funding, and there’s the general
admin support for video conference.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">For my Chapter,
I’ll propose to give an equivalent amount of money
of a Zoom license for Joly’s services. <a
href="https://www.isocfoundation.org/chapter-admin-funding-lists-of-costs/"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The optimum
would be if the staff could consolidate this for all
chapters, to avoid duplication of bank transfer
costs.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It could be a
mixed model, as for each chapter giving x amount of
money, Internet Society (Foundation) would add extra
money.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This principle
could be applied to other requests, as life
interpretation (Eduardo ;-)), Internet Society
Knowledge Base (myself ;-)), Regional Chapter
Workshops…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">That way, with
Chapters having to give some money themselves too,
we’ll see which services really interest many
chapters, and which don’t.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Because Andrew
is right: we cannot do everything. If others support
this idea, may the Chapter Advisory Council work on
a proposal?</span></p>
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lang="EN">Unity makes strength.</span></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Frederic Taes,<br>
ISOC Belgium Chapter - President</span></p>
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