<div dir="auto">Dear Roland,<div dir="auto">Thanks for your opinion. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It would be great to have a fundamental submission on what you think is best suited for any or all of this situations.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What do you advise? The likelihood of considering your thoughts is dependent on preponderance of other opinion that would pave a way for an adoptable approach. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We are all looking out for the growth and development of Internet Governance Issues. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:27 PM Roland Turner via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Thanks Julf, Adebunmi,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I subsequently discovered the page on
the ISoc website describing the process and, after reading it
through a couple of times, discerned how the bits fit together.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The oddity is simply that the thing
referred to as the nomination process is not in fact a nomination
process. A reasonable person who put forward a potential candidate
during something called a nomination process might reasonably
imagine that this would result in the potential candidate
appearing on the ballot (subject to nominee acceptance, validity,
and anti-frivolity constraints), when in fact all they've done is
offer a suggestion for consideration to a committee who is
selecting a recommended slate and who will discard the rest of the
names.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The process by which members can put
other members forward for election (subject to nominee acceptance,
validity, and anti-frivolity constraints), what is generally
understood by the term "nomination", is in fact called a petition
process. This positions putting forward candidates other than the
recommended slate as a grievance that the organisation must be
compelled to address, rather than as being itself the means by
which candidates are nominated.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I assume (hope) that there is some
compelling rationale for the way this process came together
(certainly having the process of selecting the recommended slate
open to public input seems like a healthy innovation) but what
things are called really does matter, and to position such a
fundamental act of political participation as though it were a
grievance is a rather unfortunate outcome.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Roland</div>
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<div>On 24/2/23 18:20, Adebunmi Akinbo via
Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Roland.</div>
<div dir="auto">Julf is right on procedure and process. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">However, I believe that you are looking at
addressing the issues that might have created the challenge we
are witnessing at this point.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I recall that we had similar discussions some
years ago. I had also applied and was interviewed for the
Board of Trustee. I guess interviews us no longer part of the
process. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I strongly assume that the NomCom tries it's
best but limited to what can be done. I would have expected
some strong measures from the committee created by the
Internet Society President to address this issue around 2020.
I find nothing significant (I might have missed it) in the
records not a recommendation.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Chapters hope to have it's members on the Board
of Trustee to further promote related objectives of the
Internet Society.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Again, this are assumptions considering that
everyone is working towards the same goal...making the
internet better and stronger.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I hope this suffice.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">- Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 8:44
AM Johan Helsingius via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The
petition process is a way for additional candidates to be
included<br>
even if they haven't been selected by the Nominations
Committee.<br>
<br>
Julf (SIY / Finnish Internet Association)<br>
<br>
On 24/02/2023 06:06, Roland Turner via Chapter-delegates
wrote:<br>
> Can someone point to (or even outline) the rationale
for the petition <br>
> process?<br>
> <br>
> I had assumed that it was to resolve some procedural
unfairness that <br>
> would otherwise exclude candidates who for some
reason beyond their <br>
> control had been unable to accept nomination on time,
but I note that <br>
> there are several petitions and they don't all appear
to explain the <br>
> extenuating circumstances giving rise to the
petition. Presumably I have <br>
> misunderstood something.<br>
> <br>
> - Roland<br>
> <br>
> President, Internet Society Singapore Chapter<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>
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> <br>
> <br>
> On 24/2/23 04:40, John Tarus via Chapter-delegates
wrote:<br>
>> We support Caleb Ogundele for his nomination bid
and we have signed by <br>
>> sending the e-mail to <a href="mailto:petition.candidate2@elists.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">petition.candidate2@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> _______________________________<br>
>> Dr. John K. Tarus<br>
>> Department of Information Technology<br>
>> School of Information Sciences<br>
>> Moi University<br>
>> Tel: +254721330170<br>
>> ____________________________________<br>
>> President, Internet Society Kenya Chapter<br>
>> _____________________________________<br>
>>
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>> "You don't have to sleep because the night has
come but because you <br>
>> have accomplished what you wanted to do"
(Anonymous).<br>
>>
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>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 4:29 PM Peterson, Jon via
Chapter-delegates <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Colleagues:<br>
>><br>
>> As Chair of the Internet Society Nominations
Committee, I am<br>
>> providing notification that Mr.Caleb
Ogundelehas filed a petition<br>
>> to add his name to the slate of candidates
for theChapterselection<br>
>> to the Internet Society Board of Trustees.<br>
>><br>
>> Information on petitions can be found at the
petitions<br>
>> page:<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/</a>
<<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/__;!!N14HnBHF!5kkyLY3uyza3L5F2ciLRBIIu5i8T8k1GRF7fgxlpGgw3s-NtpyNdKKtn2vknfivs-LhsoovKy-z-9knJw8mh$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/__;!!N14HnBHF!5kkyLY3uyza3L5F2ciLRBIIu5i8T8k1GRF7fgxlpGgw3s-NtpyNdKKtn2vknfivs-LhsoovKy-z-9knJw8mh$</a>>.<br>
>><br>
>> Information provided byCaleb Ogundelecan be
found<br>
>> at:<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/caleb-ogundele/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/caleb-ogundele/</a>
<<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/caleb-ogundele/__;!!N14HnBHF!8BTePwDneXKzaObVJpokL6CINLWPc8sBv35KnATBh6w1vQX2MHpFWDGrZc1VGPnf0u0VV-sW57dCDVnQZBzy$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/elections/2023/petitions/caleb-ogundele/__;!!N14HnBHF!8BTePwDneXKzaObVJpokL6CINLWPc8sBv35KnATBh6w1vQX2MHpFWDGrZc1VGPnf0u0VV-sW57dCDVnQZBzy$</a>>.<br>
>><br>
>> Names of petitioners who receive the required
number of valid<br>
>> signatures, following the process described
on the petitions page,<br>
>> will be added to the election slate.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Jon Peterson<br>
>><br>
>> 2022-2023 Nominations Committee Chair<br>
>><br>
>> Internet Society<br>
>><br>
>>
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