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Am I the only one in Chapter Delegates mailing list who received and
read the email from Christine Saegesser explaining the problem with
MemberNova and referring to:<br>
<br>
"As we noted in our prior email, after we learned of the issue, we
launched an investigation. The investigation is continuing, and we
will provide more details when we have more information to share.
Going forward, updates will be posted at <a
href="http://updates.internetsociety.org" class="">updates.internetsociety.org</a>,
and we encourage you to check there for additional information. The
membership password to access this website is ISOC-AMS-Updates (case
sensitive)."<br>
<br>
Or is the problem that there does not appear to have been any
updates since 21st January 2021?<br>
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Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/02/2022 14:54, Veni Markovski via
Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">+1 to the request for
more clarity; our members need to be informed, and I don't want
to share on social media a link to an article on some website.
There should be something at isoc.org, and in the news section
there's only one press release from 2022 - on February 4. <br>
<br>
Also, it's not a good thing to find out from a publication about
some of the details (I assume not all of them)...<br>
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v/<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/16/22 04:19, Roland Turner via
Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Andrew,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Could we have a little more clarity
on this please? Chapter members in multiple jurisdictions may
have notification obligations arising from this.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://updates.internetsociety.org/">Jan 21</a>
update states:</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">
<blockquote type="cite">Fortunately, we have still not seen
any instances of malicious access to member data as a result
of this issue.</blockquote>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This appears a little unclear to me
on two important fronts:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><b>"have not seen"</b></div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">An adversarial read of this is the
rather horrifying idea that access logging was not turned on,
so you (and MemberNet) haven't the faintest idea whether there
were any unauthorised accesses, which would certainly allow
you say that you hadn't seen any unauthorised accesses but
wouldn't mean that there weren't any, even at a reasonable
level of confidence. Hopefully this is not the case!</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><b>"malicious access"</b></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The relevant question is not
whether any accesses could be described as malicious, but
simply whether they were unauthorised. An adversarial read of
this is that there were unauthorised accesses, but because you
don't have much information about the unauthorised accessers
you not in a position to say that they were acting
maliciously, however this would tell us nothing about whether
there had been unauthorised access. Again, hopefully this is
not the case!</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">To address both concerns, are you
able to confirm that:</div>
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<ol>
<li>access logging was turned on and the logs were
successfully secured;<br>
</li>
<li>the logs appear to be complete (in this case "appear
to" is fine; the requirement is simply that there are no
unexplained gaps); and<br>
</li>
<li>all logged accesses are authorised (i.e. because they
were made by the application server, not random external
IP addresses)</li>
</ol>
?<br>
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<p>- Roland</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/2/22 15:41, Hank Nussbacher
via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">In case you missed it:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/internet-society-data-leaked/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/internet-society-data-leaked/</a>
Regards,
Hank
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