<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Veni<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can also agree that a much smaller sum would be significant for those from many parts of the world. On that basis I would stand corrected and opt for a significantly smaller compensation. -:)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 6, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" class="">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Agree with Richard that
perhaps paying is not the right way, but it's at least a way. You
are also right that if we look through the years we see different
folks, but the fact is that except for the folks, who come from
industry (org members, IETF/IAB, etc.), it is becoming more and
more difficult to find even candidate to apply. Talking about
diversity (a conversation we have had several times, including
last year), we see that the chapters are the ones, which provide
the diversity to an extent impossible for the org members. <br class="">
Imagine what would the BoT look like, if the chapters didn't have
their Trustees running and elected - only white folks from North
America and maybe 1 or 2 from Western Europe. I am not saying this
is necessarily bad, I am just stating the fact. Since we have
discussed that last year, and since the governance-reform list was
also supposed to look into this question, I won't expand with more
observations on that topic.<br class="">
On the issue of $ 150K or $ 50K. $ 50K is a generous compensation
for people from majority of the world, while it is probably not so
generous, if you come from the US or Western Europe. I would say
that even such a compensation might not be enough, because getting
paid for spending time is one thing, the other is that people need
to have current jobs that actually allow them to allocate *that*
time. We come back to the fact that org members have this as part
of their job description. Some university professor could probably
also persuade their school that it would be good to participate.
Retired people - sure thing. But if someone is running a business,
or works for a company, which has no interest in helping <a href="http://ISOC.org" class="">ISOC.org</a>
to get people on the BoT, it will be a tough sell. <br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/6/22 10:15, Richard Barnes via
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<div class="">I also was wondering if John had made a typo there. To
give you a sense of scale, paying $150k to each of 12
directors would consume roughly 5% of ISOC's total budget!
Even the $50k/yr rate you suggest would be a painful trade-off
-- for the same money, we could fund more than 150 Beyond the
Net grants ($50k * 12 / $3.5k = 171). Personally, I have a
hard time seeing how shifting that scale of money away from
impact into trustees' pockets is a net positive for the
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<div class="">At a more basic level, your taxonomy of who can participate
without payment doesn't seem well-supported by the real-world
data. ISOC has never compensated its trustees, and if you
look back at the list of people who have served as trustees (<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/list-of-trustees/" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/list-of-trustees/</a>),
you can see that there are folks from many parts of the
community. Folks from industry, academia, and the nonprofit
sector, from all around the globe.<br class="">
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<div class="">I don't disagree that maintaining the board's diversity is
a continuing challenge. But that doesn't mean that paying
people is the way to solve it. Adding the problems Ted notes
to the trade-offs noted above, compensating trustees would
likely cause more problems than it would solve.<br class="">
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