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    <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thank you, John.<br>
      Yes, I forgot to comment the "forcing", which was mentioned
      yesterday by someone in this thread. Nobody is "forcing"
      diversity, but ISOC is an international organization, with 100+
      chapters and org members, who have hundreds of thousands (if not,
      when combined, millions!) of employees around the world. <br>
      SURELY they could come with some candidates to be Trustees, who
      are not necessarily Americans... And few years ago, when we
      discussed this again, I suggested that ISOC reaches out to their
      org members, and to the IETF, and tell them that this constant
      proposal of Americans for the BoT, when they have enough diversity
      - geographical, cultural, gender, etc. - could be changed
      somewhat, to reflect the truly international nature of ISOC. <br>
      That is, of course, if ISOC indeed not only believes it's
      international, but also provide evidence to prove it.<br>
      <br>
      v/<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/21 10:48, John More wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">I fully agree with your analysis. Diversity is
        crucial for ensuring that there is an international set of
        inputs, that the Foundation not be American-centric. </div>
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      <div class="">Requiring diversity is not some sort of “forced”
        policy.  It is a basic value.  I note the benefits of the ChAC’s
        having a group of members from the regions and three at-large.</div>
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      <div class="">On the other the assumptions expressed by some in
        this set of emails that somehow the Foundation being a US
        non-profit makes it incapable of fulfilling its purposes shows
        only that there is a lot of misinformation about what the
        restrictions are and the freedom it has to act internationally.</div>
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      <div class="">John More</div>
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            <div class="">On Oct 5, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Veni Markovski
              via Chapter-delegates <<a
                href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
              wrote:</div>
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                  sans-serif">Tom, <br class="">
                  in another list, maintained by ISOC, and dedicated to
                  ISOC's "governance reform", when I raised a question
                  about diversity, was confronted with questions that
                  diversity should not be "forced" (not sure who's
                  forcing it, since none of us, chapter leaders, has any
                  power to "force" anything on ISOC?!), but people
                  should be taken by their experience, expertise,
                  skills, etc. This, of course is true, the only problem
                  is that it's not the entire truth, as there are
                  experienced and skilled experts around the world; and
                  the org members, and the IETF have enough experts
                  among their members/employees/volunteers, who are not
                  necessarily only from North America... <br class="">
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                  It seems that lack of diversity is one problem, and
                  not understanding that it is a problem, is... another
                  problem.<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/21 09:18, Tom
                  Fredrik Blenning via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br
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                  class="">Den 02.10.2021 15:40, skrev Gihan Dias via
                  Chapter-delegates: <br class="">
                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">On 01/10/2021 14:58,
                    Ted Hardie via Chapter-delegates wrote: <br
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                      We recently updated <a
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                      to include contact information for the board
                      chair, so that the chair can forward information
                      received to the Trustees. <br class="">
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                    WOW! <br class="">
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                    10 people from US (1 moving to Canada), another from
                    North America, 1 from Asia and 1 from Africa. <br
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                  I reacted to the same myself, and I think it's
                  something that is worth looking into. I would like to
                  draw attention to those trustee members appointed by
                  IETF, every single one is from the United States. <br
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                  In am not looking for a perfect demographic
                  composition of the board, it is however important to
                  have different perspectives. I am reluctant to believe
                  that the current board of trustees represents such
                  diversity. <br class="">
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