<div dir="auto">John, </div><div dir="auto">We — well, I — don’t complain from the IETF. As you said - it’s their issue, which from what we see they are either not willing, or not able to solve. Or maybe they don’t see it as a problem, as the chapters do. If the latter, that’s another problem, which perhaps ISOC could address in talking to the IETF. </div><div dir="auto">And of course that diversity problems are tough to deal with, but the first step in the search for a solution is… admitting there’s a problem. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then, who knows, given the fact that the ISOC BoT is reading this list, perhaps they will convey the observations by chapters to the IETF? After all, we all form one ISOC. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 21:46 John Levine via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It appears that Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com" target="_blank">daveb@dslprime.com</a>> said:<br>
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>The key takeaway is the IETF has failed miserably at solving its diversity<br>
>problems.<br>
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No, it shows that diversity problems are very hard.<br>
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In any event, the IETF governs itself, and while I certainly cannot<br>
speak for the IETF, I am pretty sure that complaining about them on<br>
random mailing lists is not going to make the least bit of difference.<br>
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R's,<br>
John<br>
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