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<p>+1 Franca, particularly this: <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Things worked much better when there was a
Regional Director who understood the region, issues and needs of
a Chapter and had the authority to provide funding. </blockquote>
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<p>Governance is not only top-down rather than bottom-up, but has
become increasingly centralized over the past few years. Whatever
happened to "distributed"? <br>
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<p>WYn<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2 Oct 2021 2:50 am, Franca Palazzo
via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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Apologies if this was addressed already but I can't keep up with
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I believe I already brought this up once and it wasn't
addressed. I would like to point out two issues the Canada
Chapter has with the whole process:</div>
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<li>The issues eligible for grants rarely include the issues
we are working on and the "other" category is a nightmare to
proceed with.</li>
<li>The entire process is very onerous especially for a $5k
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<div>The Canada Chapter has been doing amazing work here and we
struggle to fund projects. Things worked much better when
there was a Regional Director who understood the region,
issues and needs of a Chapter and had the authority to provide
funding. </div>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
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of Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates
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<b>Sent:</b> September 30, 2021 5:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chapter Delegates
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] On funding dedicated
to chapters</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi,<br>
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I have the impression that the information I posted was
not helpful to you, and I regret that I have not been as
helpful as you would wish.<br>
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:22:55PM +0200, Alexander Blom
wrote:<br>
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>With 90% of the money going to other external
parties<br>
<br>
That is, as I tried to point out in this message, not an
accurate portrayal of the situation. There is nothing
whatever preventing chapters from applying (or _also_
applying) for grants outside the BtN program. But BtN
is reserved _only_ to this community. Some chapters
have applied to the other progams and been successful,
and there is no reason why that can't be true for other
chapters as well. (Some chapters, of course, are not
eligible for these grants because those chapters are not
the equivalent of US 501(c)(3)s. That is a structural
problem related to US not for profit law. The Internet
Society can't currently act as an intermediary on the
larger grant programs.)<br>
<br>
>grant-making activities." On the contrary, I think
that Nazar is right: why<br>
>does the foundation and in fact all of ISOC does not
concentrate on its<br>
>core constituency, the chapters, and its core cause,
the internet? <br>
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It is certainly the case that there are people doing
work on Internet issues who are not and who do not wish
to be or cannot be chapter members, so I don't think it
would serve the Internet to insist that a chapter be
involved in everything. For instance, there are
countries where anything resembling a chapter would be
illegal, but we can work with individuals there.<br>
<br>
I admit that I don't understand the concern that we're
not concentrating on the core cause of the Internet.
The board that hired me and every board since has been
crystal clear that they do not want us to be the
everything society, and it has been a consistent
hallmark of my time here that topics that are vaguely
related to technology but are not really Internet topics
are not things that we pursue. Yes, the Foundation will
fund things that have to do with the application of the
Internet to particular problems, but unless the Internet
is at the core of each application the application won't
get far.<br>
<br>
> If<br>
>Afrinic is truly going through a rough time, why is
ISOC not jumping in?<br>
<br>
Given that there are active law suits going on, if the
Internet Society were helping do you think it would be
wise for us to post about it on a list that could be
shared very widely? This is a hypothetical question, of
course.<br>
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>And why is only 30% of project applications
successful? <br>
<br>
Well, that is the rate so far this year, but as I said
we are working to improve the problematic applications
so that this rate can get better. I don't think I was
suggesting that this is a good result, and I believe it
will improve as we continue to work with applicants.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
<br>
A<br>
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-- <br>
Andrew Sullivan<br>
President & CEO, Internet Society<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sullivan@isoc.org">sullivan@isoc.org</a><br>
+1 416 731 1261<br>
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