<div dir="auto">Thanks, Judith and all, who so far have contributed. Hopefully, others will join soon! </div><div dir="auto">If there’s an issue with chapters applying for funding, this maybe due to a number of reasons. You and Alexander have stayed some, but I wonder why do we need to guess (even if we make educated guesses, or share our own experience), since this is a job for ISOC foundation, or maybe even ISOC to research, and find out what the reasons are? George and Muhammad, here’s another example of what ISOC could do better. </div><div dir="auto">I can’t get rid of the feeling that each time we start a discussion like this one (and there are already several dozen messages here!), we — chapters — are being asked to either provide solutions (which, given the heavy dependence on lawyers, is somewhat strange), or to be more active (aren’t we? If we are not, has ISOC reached out to find out why?), etc. </div><div dir="auto">So far in this thread I see several good ideas; hopefully there will be more. We could (yet again) give the benefit of the doubt to ISOC Trustees and see what they can come up with? Or we (and you, Trustees) could ask Andrew to tell us how he could (would?) use the shared observations and experience to make things better? </div><div dir="auto">There are requests for more data, so we can figure out what the level of funding is — that would be a good start. There are facts shared about lack or diversity — that’s a worrisome information, which the BoT could address (and IMHO should).</div><div dir="auto">And last, but not least, there should be some knowledge at the BoT level as to why chapters (and how many?) are not actively engaged, what bothers them, what they need from ISOC (and vice versa). And this is only after a few days. I see a lot of positive energy here, would be great to see it reflected in some positive follow up. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hope this is useful?</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:32 Judith Hellerstein via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">HI All,<br>
<br>
I know there has been a lot of work done on simplifying the Beyond the net <br>
program and I thank you for that. I think that one of the issues that have led <br>
some chapters to not apply for them has been that if their program that they <br>
wanted to gain funding for was was not one of the types listed in the pull down <br>
tabs and so they gave up without using the Other tab and showcasing why their <br>
program was important to the chapter and met the chapter's goals and needs. The <br>
programs were tied to the main topics within the ISOC Action plan for that year <br>
but sometimes those action items did not have a direct relationship to what that <br>
particular chapters were facing and so since they did not fit or explain how <br>
their program fit into the ISOC plan and issues for that year they gave up or <br>
they were not successful. I think the addition of the other category in the <br>
Beyond the net applications and the ability to explain how this program that <br>
you are seeking funding for meets the goals and action items you set out in your <br>
own chapter action items and goals for this year has now allowed other chapters <br>
and SIGs to gain access to funding.<br>
<br>
I think the expansion of the topics drop down list in beyond the net has <br>
broadened the ability for chapters to gain funding has made a difference but <br>
perhaps others were not aware of this broadening of the issues that can be <br>
covered by a Small Beyond the Net Grant. This is what allowed our SIG to get <br>
funding as Accessibility is not a topic or an issue but all encompassing<br>
<br>
On the issues of Attorneys I definitely agree on as the Accessibility SIG has <br>
had this issue over the years with ISOC and we have worked hard to find <br>
alternative arrangements that could work and allow us to function and put on <br>
programs. The additional Flexibility now on the budget is a great help as often <br>
costs change from when you planned them to when they happened and good that <br>
these could be modified later.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Judith Hellerstein<br>
<br>
Accessibility SIG<br>
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On 9/27/2021 12:12 PM, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:59:03AM -0400, Veni Markovski via <br>
> Chapter-delegat>Question to ISOC staff (or you, if you know the answer):<br>
>> Is there a change between the time when ISOC was funding projects, and now, <br>
>> when the Foundation is doing it?<br>
><br>
> The Beyond the Net grants program was moved in its entirety unchanged from the <br>
> Internet Society to the Foundation. The program has been considerably <br>
> simplified recently in an effort to make it still easier for people to apply, <br>
> and the deadlines have been removed to make it possible to apply when it works <br>
> for the chapters. Nevertheless, we _still_ have a shortage of applications: <br>
> the programme fund has not been tapped completely since I started in this job.<br>
><br>
> Some chapters, meanwhile, not only apply for BtN grants but also for other <br>
> grant programmes, and are successful in their applications. We have invested <br>
> significantly in training materials to try to make this process easy for grant <br>
> applicants. Please do apply.<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> A<br>
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