<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Hi Dave,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As researcher I worked on several ITU-T standards, when ITU-T was fighting against the Internet DOD model. Take a look at X.25, are we talking about TCP/IP world? ITU-T is definitively NOT about Internet way of networking.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Read <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.25">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.25</a> as basic example.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When I’m looking on whom/what influences the most Internet today, it’s IGF and ICANN coming first, far ahead a long list of other organisms. We should work to place ISOC in the top.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">A book « four internets » has just been released (<a href="https://www.southampton.ac.uk/wsi/research/four-internets.page">https://www.southampton.ac.uk/wsi/research/four-internets.page</a>), with foreword from Vint Cerf. IMO, it is there that ISOC should be present. Like 10 years ago with <a href="https://youtu.be/OInTXcZ4HZM">https://youtu.be/OInTXcZ4HZM</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Our member Eric Tomson (BTW, also founding member of PIR) just wrote an excellent article on why ISOC is unique, we are working on translation. I’ll post it here next week.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Frederic Taes</div><div dir="ltr">ISOC.be President</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">Le 13 juil. 2021 à 21:28, Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org> a écrit :<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The keynote speaker tomorrow, Doreen Bogdan-Martin of the ITU, can dispel the current confusion at ISOC about Vladimir Putin using the ITU to take over the Internet. With one exception in a decade, the ITU works by consensus and the US + EU can and has blocked any nonsense.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">She also can explain how dozens of ISOC members can should attend the ITU meetings because we could really make a difference. (Especially in the study groups that make some important standards.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">ISOC has a free membership in ITU, which wants more non-government involvement. The Secretary-General reminded our CEO we can send as many representatives as we like. (The US sends 100.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Currently. Andrew is blocking attendance by people like a founder of ISOC Israel, a distinguished technologist. Our policy lead explained we can;t allow even our most qualified members to attend, because they "might say something that isn't ISOC policy."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">An easy and important way for ISOC to encourage membership, which has been effectively stagnant or declining for many years.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The great Cory Doctorow also is speaking, who has important ideas on how to limit the power of web giants.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Other than that, far too many lobbyists and uninformed ideologues. Every reason to welcome right wingers like Michele Connelly, a respected economist. But too many of the DC favorites get lost in their biases.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">We really need to move IGF away from the lobbyist town, perhaps to a tech center like California.</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">Dave</div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Editor, AnalysisBranch.com, Wirelessone.news, fastnet.news<br>@analysisbranch telecom news worth a tweet<div>Available for consulting.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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