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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/07/2021 22:23, Dave Burstein via
Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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ms,sans-serif">We have a remarkable opportunity to do that at
the ITU, where the Secretary-General suggested we send as many
as 100 delegates to the major events. He pointed out we are
full "sector members" and publicly encouraged our CEO, Kathy
Brown, to use that to bring the non-governmental sector into
further prominence at the ITU.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif">We can and should exercise power at the ITU,
accrediting as many experienced ISOC members and public
advocates as can get to the meetings. I've spent weeks at ITU
meetings, accredited as press, and discovered that the leaders
and delegates were very open to my ideas. I met one on one
with almost all the senior staff. If you are informed and
courteous, you can have impact at ITU meetings. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif">There is essentially no public interest
presence at the very important ITU-T Study Groups, nominally
the ultimate arbiter of international standards. We should at
minimum have 2 or 3 volunteers at each Study group. They
actually do much more than the big meetings we attend, which
are talkfests.</div>
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ms,sans-serif">If a few dozen good people attended from ISOC,
that would play a major role in the process. Only once in 20
years has ITU come down to a vote of nations (WCIT in 2012.)
US Ambassador Phil Verveer told me ITU was perhaps the best
example of an International organization that is open and
approaches the "multi-stakeholder" ideal. (Some disagree,
probably including Veni. My response: let's make it so.) <br>
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<p>Dave, </p>
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<p>I tried and was not successful. </p>
<p>I applied last month to a number of Study Groups as you suggested
yesterday:</p>
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<li>"ITU > ITU-T > SP 16 > Study Group 3 > t17sg3q6"</li>
<li>"ITU > ITU-T > SP 16 > Study Group 3 > t17sg3q9"</li>
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<p>Here is what I received in response: </p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">"However, we had to reject your subscription
request, as the ITU Account that you have created is not duly
linked to <b>Internet Society</b>, which is an ITU-T Sector
Member. </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">...</span><br>
<span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kindly
seek authorization from the focal point for
</span><b><span lang="EN-US">Internet Society</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> to have your request
approved, and please inform us on the decision</span>. The
Focal Point of
<b>Internet Society</b> is Ms Elizabeth Oluoch, Senior Policy
Advisor and International Institutions Relations Manager (<a
href="mailto:oluoch@isoc.org">oluoch@isoc.org</a>)."</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Which I did try. Here is her response:</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">"Thank you for contacting us about joining
ITU-T Study Group 3 mailing lists. ISOC is a Sector Member of
both the standards and development sectors. Regarding
participation in ITU meetings and events, our policy allows only
for the participation of ISOC staff. In view of this policy I am
not able to approve your request. However, if there is some
specific work in ITU-T Study Group 3 that you are interested in
or are following, we can try to provide information on status of
that work."</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">So before all chapter members race to the ITU
to accomplish what you suggest, we would have to convince ISOC
to change its policy in regards to chapter members being able to
join ITU Study Groups.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Hank Nussbacher</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">ISOC-IL</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">PS I beg to differ with your statement "</span><span
lang="EN-US">ITU-T Study Groups, nominally the ultimate arbiter
of international standards". I think that axiom goes to the
IETF in regards to Internet standards.<br>
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