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<p>Thanks Vint for the right and correct answer. As you say
underlying data transport can be different e.g. wi-fi, but the
things we are doing today have common</p>
<p>layer based on TCP/IP or UDP/IP, being video, speech or e.mail.
That is the main internet property - ability to inter-connect
multiple packet switched networks. <br>
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<p>Many forget that!</p>
<p>Borka</p>
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<p>vinton cerf via Chapter-delegates je 9. 09. 2020 ob 19:42
napisal:</p>
<span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: block; width: 98vw;">> Dave, I think you may have at least one thing wrong.
>
> You can't interconnect a bunch of networks and expect anything to
> work if there isn't something they have in common. Sometimes that's
> up at the application layer - so we used to have email gateways but
> could not do remote login or ftp or the many other things we do over
> TCP/IP or UDP/IP. The common use of IP is key to the Internet's
> ability to interconnect multiple packet-switched networks. Bob Kahn's
> DOA assumes IP connectivity but is not dependent on DNS (although it
> can use DNS).
>
> vint
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:30 PM Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org
></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a>> wrote:
>
> People
>
> Columbia Professor Eli Noam, perhaps the Internet's most respected
> public voice, pointed out that there was no reason what's valuable
> about the Internet required a single system. So long as there was
> robust interconnection, there could be many "Internets" with
> different internal systems.
>
> There is absolutely no reason the future Internet requires "a Common
> Protocol," "a Single Distributed Routing System,"or "Common Global
> Identifiers"/I think those are good ideas, but can respect those who
> disagree. /
>
> Bob Kahn, a founder of ISOC, supports DOA/DONA, a "digital object
> architecture." We discuss some of its pros and cons at
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2016/overview-of-the-digital-object-architecture-doa/">https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2016/overview-of-the-digital-object-architecture-doa/</a>
>
>
>
</span>In another example, Verizon, backed by Deutsche Telekom,
Telefonica, the Koreans, and the Chinese want "deterministic
networking" designed to guarantee performance. (Like Vint and
Andrew, I strongly oppose that and was one of the few to speak up at
the ITU FG2030. It is likely to dominate our networks in 5-10 years,
like it or not.)<br>
<span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: block; width: 98vw;">>
> I might prefer a system that did a better job protecting my privacy
> from government and corporate spying. Others might prefer a system
> that did a better job detecting and blocking pornography.
> ----------------
>
> To be effective, we need to begin with the facts on the ground. In
> almost all countries, the Internet is dominated by a handful of
> companies. I think we can all agree on this, even if we disagree on
> the right response.
>
> 9 of 13 of our Board are from the U.S., as are many of our senior
> staff. To be effective, we should clearly take positions that benefit
> Internet users around the world. We must be very careful not to take
> positions that protect U.S. giant companies.
>
> Our policy lead has said ISOC is a place for "Like-minded
> individuals," backed by our current and previous CEO. We've taken
> that too far, to the point we are preaching to the converted and not
> representing the interests of most people on the Internet.
>
> Andrew, Gonzalo - It's your job to do better.
>
>
>
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