<div dir="auto">Hi all.<div dir="auto">I agree about this secret list.</div><div dir="auto">Also I think that a secret lust made easier to give the proper treatment to messages we are sharing.</div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">Andrea </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:30 AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Over a thousand people? Christine, aren’t the chapter delegates a smaller number?</div><div dir="auto">As to the “secrecy”, Dave, I see this more about question of trust among ourselves, rather than a secrecy issue. Given the fact some people put names, addresses and phones in their emails, it could be also a GDPR issue, if it’s published on ISOC website. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If it was started as a private list, it shouldn’t have been changed to a public one. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 07:17 Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Christine</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Something emailed to over a thousand people cannot be kept secret, so this restriction makes no sense.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The last two CEO's of ISOC declared our work should be transparent. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Let's live up to that and only keep secret that which absolutely must be secret. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I can't even find out who our donors are, although I know several of them benefit from our policy advocacy.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Makes us look like Astroturf. Good reporters will question our work.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:47 AM Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Some of you may have seen a question that came up on the Internet-Policy list concerning the archive of the Chapter-Delegates list (see:
<a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/</a>). </div>
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<div>I’d like to follow-up here and share some background, but also get a sense of what the preference of the list members is: </div>
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<div><b>Background: </b></div>
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The Chapter-Delegates list is a list that was created for current Internet Society Chapter leaders to have a place to get information relevant to their Chapter, to their leadership positions and a place for them to discuss and share issues pertinent to the
Internet Society Chapter community. <br>
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The list was intended to be a private discussion place for current leaders only and has been set up like that in 2005. The archive was therefore also private to current list members.<br>
It was brought to our attention that the list archive was made public in 2009. We are not sure on what basis this decision was taken at the time and have therefore set it back to the original intended status.<br>
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<div><b>Question: </b></div>
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<div>This is a list that is there for all of you to use and we’d thus like to hear what the preference of the list members is with regards to keeping the list archives private (to the list members) as opposed to making them public. </div>
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<div>Please add your answer to that question by clicking on this link before 30 July: <a href="https://www.surveymonkey.de/r/G7XTRLX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.surveymonkey.de/r/G7XTRLX</a></div>
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<div>Thanks!!!</div>
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<div>Christine </div>
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