<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Gonzalo</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Thank you for moving forward here. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Let's make sure the working group and the following board discussion are open and transparent. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The last major chapter proposal was rejected in a closed session.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:04 AM Gonzalo Camarillo via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Richard,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">seeing it before we officially receive it would totally spoil the surprise! ;-)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seriously though, the Board is of course aware of the governance discussions some of the chapter leaders have had (and are having). Eduardo has also talked about them to the Board in several occasions. The establishment of the working group
relates to those discussions. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With respect to the advice, once we receive it, we will study it and respond to it appropriately, as usual.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gonzalo<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a> <<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2020 17:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Gonzalo Camarillo <<a href="mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com" target="_blank">gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com</a>>; 'Chapter Delegates' <<a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:[Chapter-delegates] Working Group on Governance<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Gonzalo <br>
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I don't know the outcome of the vote, but the advice that was voted on is not secret, I thought that you might have seen it.
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Best <br>
Richard <br>
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Sent from my Huawei Mobile<u></u><u></u></p>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: RE: [Chapter-delegates] Working Group on Governance<br>
From: Gonzalo Camarillo <br>
To: Richard Hill ,'Chapter Delegates' <br>
CC: <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Hi Richard,<br>
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please, note that we still haven't received the advice from the ChAC. Nevertheless, if the establishment of this working group indeed addresses parts of the advice we will be receiving, that'd of course be a good thing.
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Cheers,<br>
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Gonzalo<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Richard Hill <<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 17:31<br>
> To: Gonzalo Camarillo <<a href="mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com" target="_blank">gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com</a>>; 'Chapter<br>
> Delegates' <<a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
> Subject: RE: [Chapter-delegates] Working Group on Governance<br>
> <br>
> Dear Gonzalo,<br>
> <br>
> Thank you for this.<br>
> <br>
> Two of the bits of advice on which the ChAC has recently voted include the<br>
> following:<br>
> <br>
> "Initiate a process to change the ISOC Bylaws so that the current<br>
> communities that elect are considered as constituencies and so that they<br>
> must be consulted prior to any major financial and strategically significant<br>
> operational decisions being taken"<br>
> <br>
> "We reiterate that the Board charters a small group comprised of members<br>
> of the Board and members of the Advisory Committees (ACs) to consider<br>
> possible changes to ISOC's Bylaws that would strengthen the roles of the ACs<br>
> in general and the Chapters in particular"<br>
> <br>
> Unless I am mistaken, the creation of the working group you outline below<br>
> would respond to that advice.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> Richard<br>
> <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-</a><br>
> > <a href="mailto:bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo via Chapter-<br>
> > delegates<br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 16:13<br>
> > To: 'Chapter Delegates'; Chapters AC Elist<br>
> > Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Working Group on Governance<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Chapter Leaders,<br>
> ><br>
> > the ISOC board looks forward to receiving additional advice from the<br>
> > Chapter Advisory Council. This kind of feedback from the Chapters<br>
> > community is taken very seriously, as is the feedback we receive from<br>
> > other ISOC communities.<br>
> ><br>
> > Some of the proposals in the advice currently under consideration by<br>
> > the Chapter Advisory Council would have wide-ranging implications for<br>
> > the Internet Society's governance and its future. These proposals, if<br>
> > implemented, would impact not only our Chapters, but also the two<br>
> > other communities who appoint Trustees: Organizational Members and the<br>
> IETF.<br>
> ><br>
> > The proposals also suggest a number of changes which would first<br>
> > require legal review to ensure that legal and regulatory compliance<br>
> > issues, as well as conflict-of-interest issues, continue to be<br>
> > minimized consistent with our applicable legal and fiduciary<br>
> > obligations.<br>
> ><br>
> > Given the scope of the proposals and the implications for the whole of<br>
> > the Internet Society and its communities, the board has decided to<br>
> > create a Working Group to review the advice and produce a report with<br>
> > recommendations to be developed by consensus. The Working Group will<br>
> > be comprised of members and representatives of the board, the<br>
> > Chapters, the Organizational Members, and the IETF community. We will<br>
> > consult with each community, soon, regarding an appropriate democratic<br>
> > process for the selection of Working Group members.<br>
> ><br>
> > I look forward to your support for the Working Group.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> ><br>
> > Gonzalo Camarillo<br>
> > Chair, Internet Society Board of Trustees<br>
> ><br>
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