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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I did not participate in suppressing any dissent. On the contrary, I worked hard to ensure that the document reflected all points of view.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Godwin via Chapter-delegates<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 1, 2020 23:30<br><b>To:</b> John More<br><b>Cc:</b> ISOC Chapter Delegates<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advice notice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Richard writes:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>'<span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With due respect, the ChAC process was scrupulously followed, as Eduardo has explained. You apparently think that that process is not appropriate. You are of course entitled to you views, but it is the process that was approved by the Board.'</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The notion that scrupulous adherence to due process is a defense is a common argument in Hell. See, e.g., this statement by Grant Gilmore:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/342530-the-ages-of-american-law-the-storrs-lectures-series">https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/342530-the-ages-of-american-law-the-storrs-lectures-series</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#181818'>In relevant sentence: "In hell there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously observed.”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#181818'>Your argument that that due process was "scrupulously" followed is no comfort to the dissenters whom you participated in suppressing.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#181818'>Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:07 PM John More via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Juan <br><br>I fully recognize how busy most of us are. There is a difference between the elists which are often loaded with repetitious comments and can be a waste of time. The ChapterAC process for the advice was clear and scrupulously followed. Moreover, it involved relatively minimal time demands except for those of us on the drafting committee. All that was required was to review the draft and send in an email opposition. If there had been opposition expressed, a vote would have been required.<br><br>So I agree that silence is not assent, but it is a “consent" that the proposal go forward without a formal vote, especially since withholding consent was fairly easy to do.<br><br>I do hope you will be able to be involved if the ChaptersAC has another issue like this one.<br><br>Yours,<br><br>John More<br>ISOC-DC<br><br>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Juan C. Cigala, Internet Society Canarias via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> I agree with Franca and Solomon, silence is not consent.<br>> <br>> Many of us haven't the time to take care of this kind of never ending kind of discussions.<br>> <br>> I support the debate, but with the due respect for the time of the others.<br>> <br>> <br>> On 2/27/2020 04:49, Solomon Hopewell Kembo via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>>> I agree with Franca, silence is not consent.<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):<br>> <a href="https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login" target="_blank">https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login</a><br>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):<br><a href="https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login" target="_blank">https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login</a><br>View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>